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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 18, 2014 10:50:25 GMT 1
I will have to rewatch the fight but I don't really remember that he could have knocked out Hoost. It is more likely Hoost took it easy because he actually was the one who had trained to fight wasn't overweight, drinking and eating at the event, and so on.
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 17, 2014 9:38:16 GMT 1
Well, now they both have time to train properly, so I hope they will make it more than just an exhibition match.
Sakmongkol is a nice bonus to this event. I just read on his wiki that he defeated Cosmo Alexandre just 3 years ago??
I'd call that pretty impressive. Interesting to see what he's got left at 41. maybe not that old if you look at some k-1 veterans, but for a Thai fighter...
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 16, 2014 7:49:18 GMT 1
Now hold on; I only addressed two specific things in my post: 1) about the heads of muslim countries, explained by two ex-muslims. Now you can disagree with them, and maybe they are talking out of their asses as well, but they seem pretty nuanced to me. You asked for an explanation, I just provided one 2) about the term of islamophobia being thrown around. I really feel that is the case. And no matter how well read you are or what a sopisticated thinker someone is, whenever there is genuine critique on islam, rather than muslims as people, being labeled as an islamophobe is an instant conversation ender and actually I think it's rather intellectually dishonest to do so. No one accuses you of being a christianophobe if you criticize that religion for example. I specifically said that I side with them on THAT point, and although I agree with them on many other points as well, I said nothing about those points. To be clear: I also disagree with Maher an Harris about other things. (Maher for instant is an infamous anti-vaccin nut. With Harris I disagree about gun control/policy for example). Now the format of the show of Bill Maher not really suits such a discussion, nor (arguably) the guests. Although I question then; when are people qualified for this debate? I also doubt that Maher or Affleck have read those philosophers, although I know Harris has (he referenced both Kierkegaard and Spinoza before, he also has a degree in philosophy, if that matters. And you might disagree heavily whith Hitchens, you cannot say he wasn't well read or familiar with the works of philosophers or didn't have any knowledge about politics in the world). Now I'm not even pretending to be an expert in the field. Although I'm always trying to know more about the subject, reading books, reading the opinions of possibly every side of the story. It's hard. When I listen to so-called experts/scholars like Reza Aslan, seeing him distorting the views of his opponents, it saddens me. Here's someone who is supposed to be knowledgeable about his field, but really has some shady debate-antics.
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 14, 2014 21:15:23 GMT 1
No, Buakaw asked Robbie for support for his issues. As they are friends and knew about the delayed payment to Groenhart, for which Robbie was there first and foremost. And that last bit is true for certain.
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 14, 2014 12:30:26 GMT 1
I don't know the full story (yet), and I'm not a blind Buakaw-nuthugger, but I feel something's shady going on, and not on Buakaws part. Of course that's a big claim that need to be proved by Buakaw's camp, but that is where my source is pointing to, and I'm inclined to believe him. I'm interested to see how this plays out (and I don't think the K-1 statement clarifies anything for that matter). I believe you're a personal friend of Robbie, yes? I half expected you to comment here as soon as his name popped up in the discussion, but at the same time I am surprised by it. I guess I can't blame you for siding with someone you have ties with and I don't want to be the guy to say something bad about a 'friend of a friend', but Robbie is pretty much known to be a Glory shill. Also, he has made some of the dumbest anti-k1 posts ever over at the Dutch forums a few years ago. To me he's obviously biased and his words about as trustworthy as Bas Boon. I'll only defend someone if I think I can vouch for him. And you shouldn't hold back of your opinion, I just ask for a chance to read/listen to the other side of the story. I must say that in the last few years I haven't followed the scene as extensively as I once have. But if I do a quick search and see this: www.fighttalk.nl/vforum/martial-arts-group2/martial-arts-forum-forum2/persbericht-bas-boon-thread365/I see someone who's both critical of K-1 ánd Glory, and at the same time asks to give al the organizations a chance, for kickboxing's sake.
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 14, 2014 12:10:52 GMT 1
Before I react I must disclose that I know Robbie Timmers personally (for many years) and in fact consider him a friend. Also I have no questions about his integrity or any reasons to lie to me about this.
I think you are wrong or at best misinformed about Buakaw hating Robbie. In fact, they're actually pretty close, Buakaw has stayed with him and vice versa multiple times, going out. At one point in time there was an opportunity that Robbie would do Buakaws management and the only reason that didn't go through was that they couldn't agree upon the conditions of the contract.
The reason why Robbie was at the K-1 is because he also represents Murthel Groenhart as a fighter. Groenhart still has to get paid by K-1, after having won a tournament almost 2 years ago.
Now Buakaw also has some issues with K-1, mainly about his contract and money. The story is that Buakaw signed for fights and an upcoming tourney (this one), assuming there was an additional bonus for winning the tourney (which turned out to be false), so even if he won, financially he would gain nothing more. Now let's be clear, this shouldn't be a reason to walk out in my personal opinion.
Furthermore there - allegedly- have been some rules changes last minute - although I didn't get into that and I don't know what was going on there. I asked about the gambling-thing but he didn't know exactly what was going on there.
The only reason Robbie was at Buakaws gym is to gain support against K-1 for screwing over (although this is up to debate obviously) fighters. Since Robbie was already there for speaking out in the media about Groenhart not being paid, and he and Buakaw are good friends, Buakaw asked him to 'tag along', so to speak. His intentions were not to destroy K-1 with bad press, but he did want to speak out more publicly about issues that still haven't been resolved.
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To be clear: my mission is not to make any excuses for Buakaw or takes side. I do however feel obliged to clear some things up where I can. I think it's equally wrong to at the one hand join a million nuthuggers and believe always and everything, but at the other assume the opposite and that Buakaw is lying. I do think it's a stupid mess but in a very grey area for that matter. I don't know Buakaw personally obviously, but everything I've read, seen on TV (documentaries) and heard first hand from people who do know him a little better, I have no other choice dan giving him at least a little bit the benifit of the doubt.
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 14, 2014 10:32:15 GMT 1
Can I read the full statement in print somewhere?
Also, what's the significance (or objection?) of Robbie Timmers being there?
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 14, 2014 7:59:42 GMT 1
When will these "liberal" Islamophobes stop talking out of their asses? If Islam is as "backward" and "anti-liberal" as they claim, how do they explain to me the fact that countries like Indonesia and Pakistan (and others), huge Muslim countries, have had female heads of states, something that the "liberal" US of A has yet to achieve? FYI, Indonesia is 10 times as big as Saudi Arabia population-wise. That's a lot of Muslims, and all the Indonesians that I know are far more pleasant human beings than Bill fucking Maher. Well, an explanation of that is given here: www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/10/05/reza-aslan-is-wrong-about-islam-and-this-is-why/if you question the motives of Bill Maher, maybe this piece might help, from a perspective of an ex-muslim. Also, I'm very much against the term 'islamophobia'. That's not to say that there isn't a (probably large) group of bigots that are very much opposed against muslims, but this term has been thrown around far too much at people with legitimate criticism against islam. I very much side with the likes of Bill Maher, Sam Harris, etc (I'm sorry miscmisc, am I an aggressive atheist now? (I hope we still can be online friends )) www.patheos.com/blogs/marginoferr/2014/10/12/bill-maher-is-no-bigot/www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2014/10/maher-harris-aslan-affleck-kristof-an-atheist-reformist-iranians-view/
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Oct 14, 2014 5:43:48 GMT 1
I don't know the full story (yet), and I'm not a blind Buakaw-nuthugger, but I feel something's shady going on, and not on Buakaws part.
Of course that's a big claim that need to be proved by Buakaw's camp, but that is where my source is pointing to, and I'm inclined to believe him.
I'm interested to see how this plays out (and I don't think the K-1 statement clarifies anything for that matter).
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Sept 19, 2014 14:35:29 GMT 1
Lol, it wasn't as hardcore and adventureous as THAT. Leeches were the worst, and really, if that's the worst, well, you have it pretty easy. One nice thing to mention: I brought two muay thai shorts and 2 pairs of gloves for my nieces (aged 5 and 7). The 7 year old went on wearing it to school, and after hearing that she was totally in awe with it, I brought her to a muay thai lesson. She loved it. So now this proud uncle has permission of her mom and dad to take her to muay thai lesson once a week. (the 5 year old is nog quite sold yet, but maybe she was just shy; she often wants to do the same things as her big sister so who knows )
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Sept 14, 2014 18:18:18 GMT 1
Yeah I should have known, I should have just brought my iPhone 4. It's what I also do when there's carnaval or some other event I know there might be a good chance I get shitfaced drunk My guess is that I lost it in a taxi, just sliding out my pocket. The weird thing is, when I called my number, I got a normal ringing tone for a few days. After that, no signal. My guess is, it somewhere in that same cab inside the seat or something. Anyway, I loved Khao Sok National Park. The lake and surrounding jungle is just so awesomely beautiful. We stayed in a treehouse and two days on floating cabins on the lake. No electricity, except for one generator to charge batteries if needed. It really gave me the rest I desperately needed. Our trip was like this: 4 days Bangkok, 4 days Koh Phi Phi, 4 days Khao Sok, 5 days Koh Samui/Koh Pangang and 2 days Bangkok again. Bangkok: clearly not my city. It's hot as hell, crowded, dirty, it smells, and so on. To be honest: it also has a lot of nice and beautiful places that you don't know of. We did a bicycle tours and our guide took us to some pretty beautiful places there. Also going out at night can be awesome - if you know the right places. One of my friends still had contacts in Thailand so two Thai girls took us to the cool places. You know, when you step inside some office building, you think 'what the hell am I doing here, you step into the elevator, and seconds later, 46 stories up, you step into a mad party on some rooftop. One thing I underestimated - the sex tourism. In my naivety I thought you really had to look for it but boy was I wrong. So many old dudes with young Thai girls. Really awkward. You constantly get harassed by prostitutes. And if you're not in 'that kind of bar', you still have to question every kind of attention you're getting from the girls. Either they're genuine prostitutes, or girls who dream of getting a European guy and a better life elsewhere. Only few girls who might just be normal and have a 'healthy' kind of interest in you. That's how I perceived it anyway. As a 6"3 ft European guy you get lots of attention, you can almost pick and choose. And I'm far from a Brad Pitt kind of guy. Massage parlors on the islands Koh Phi Phi and Koh Samui? I thought the 'happy end' was also some kind of exaggerated thing. Nope, in most of the salons, the girls are trying to get you there, even if you don't want it. If you want a normal massage, the only two real options are getting it at the beach, where everything is in the open, or in town where (mostly some older) women wear uniforms. Avoid 'massaaaaaageeee?' screaming girls, or salons where curtains get closed and cd's of Whitney Houston and Celine Dion are on repeat (been there, done that). Anyway, back to my trip. Koh Phi Phi was pretty cool, chilling at the beach. Going out on night was different from night to night. Some fun nights and some less fun nights. Went on excursion with a boat, snorkeling, which was a first for me and really cool. Went to Maya Beach, where the Leonardo DiCaprio movie 'The Beach' was recorded. Well, that was a big disappointment. Really small beach with so many tourists, and we had to stay there for an hour. Khao Sok was really beautiful. Stayed in a treehouse first night. Went to feed monkeys, tubing on a lazy river, went on night safari, swam into a bat cave, eating breakfast on a floating table on the lake. Went on a trekking, saw elephants and monkeys living in the wild. Climbed a waterfall. Most beautiful place ever. Koh Samui, stayed at Superpro Samui where my friend Robbie runs that place. Hired scooters, visited the big Buddha, climbed another waterfall. Went to the Full Moon Party on Koh Pangang, and despite the stories of people who found it to be much too 'commercial', we had a blast and certainly was one of the heights as well, as for partying at least. Back in Bangkok like I said, I was sad going back, but still got to go to Rajadamnern. Next day we visited the Grand Palace and the 46 mtr long Reclining Buddha, went for some souvenirs and then back to Kiev - Amsterdam. All in all, it was so much fun. These are just the cliffs notes, lots of stories
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Sept 13, 2014 12:04:41 GMT 1
Lost my phone in Bangkok - at the first night other than that, the trip to Thailand was awesome, and I saw one event @ Rajadmanern, so that's a bucket list item crossed. Lumpini didn't work out unfortunately.
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Jul 29, 2014 7:05:22 GMT 1
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Jul 18, 2014 22:36:53 GMT 1
Hehe yeah. But I trust things will have calmed down a little bit, and the airline will take all necessary measures to make sure we come out alive Also, this whole thing will cause (if not already) a political mess for Russia and the seperatists. Not likely that they will make the same mistake again, I reckon.
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Post by Jofeljoh! on Jul 18, 2014 19:25:39 GMT 1
Oh by the way I'm flying to Bangkok in 5 weeks, with...
... a transfer in Kiev.
(not worried though).
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