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Post by lero on Jun 1, 2019 1:25:12 GMT 1
Is the first time Joshua is fighting outside England. So he may be warming up for something big.
Happening in 24 hours!
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Post by h on Jun 2, 2019 4:29:56 GMT 1
Is the first time Joshua is fighting outside England. So he may be warming up for something big. Happening in 24 hours! welp.... |
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Post by K1power on Jun 2, 2019 12:19:40 GMT 1
Andy Ruiz Jr defeats Anthony Joshua by TKO R7
So, is this a rather big upset? Sure, but this is not 'the biggest upset in boxing history' - not by a long shot.
From what I've read it seems that a fair number of people had Ruiz taking this beforehand.
Joshua started out well enough, but got a bit cocky/careless after he knocked Ruiz down and paid the price for it. By the end Joshua looked mentally beaten and like he didn't want to be there anymore. I think his 'protest' when the ref called it pretty much said it all.
So yeah, very nice for Ruiz and heavyweight boxing in general. There is a bunch of fighters at the top now who can give each other fights, though we still have to see anyone put Fury and Wilder in serious trouble.
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Post by h on Jun 2, 2019 19:15:34 GMT 1
i mean id have to think Ruiz next fight is guaranteed vs one of those two unless Joshua gets an immediate rematch. i really dont know how thats going to work. but Neither of them would turn it down and it would be Ruiz biggest payday ever id think. you dont turn that down. i love that he won and shook things up. he'd only lost one time to begin with vs 33 wins it wasnt unthinkable for him to win but he was a big underdog coming in. i didnt think he would win but it wasnt going to be impossible to pull it off. i like that he doesnt have the horsemeat bod the most. hes a working mans champion.
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Post by samurai1 on Jun 2, 2019 19:58:58 GMT 1
Andy Ruiz Jr defeats Anthony Joshua by TKO R7 So, is this a rather big upset? Sure, but this is not 'the biggest upset in boxing history' - not by a long shot. From what I've read it seems that a fair number of people had Ruiz taking this beforehand. Joshua started out well enough, but got a bit cocky/careless after he knocked Ruiz down and paid the price for it. By the end Joshua looked mentally beaten and like he didn't want to be there anymore. I think his 'protest' when the ref called it pretty much said it all. So yeah, very nice for Ruiz and heavyweight boxing in general. There is a bunch of fighters at the top now who can give each other fights, though we still have to see anyone put Fury and Wilder in serious trouble. "This SURE is the biggest upset in boxing history" How arrogant can one be to make such a statement? I mean I thought joshua was a 75-25% favorite. Just look at his past fights. He fought an out of prime 40 year old povetkin, the same povetkin that a few months earlier almost got finished by david price and was losing the fight until david price did what david price does. Yet I thought povetkin was 6-0 at rounds against Joshua going into the 7th where he got Ko'd. Before that Joshua had a very close fight against parker. Also he fought an over the hill carlos takam that was giving him trouble and making him look stuck in the mud. He beat an over the hill wladimir and almost got Ko'd in the process. Wlad was good in his prime, but he was so dominant mainly because he fought small HWs that fit his style perfectly, so he could impose his wrestle-clinch tactics avoiding therefore the exchanges and wearing them down like that. |
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Post by K1power on Jun 2, 2019 22:13:41 GMT 1
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Post by h on Jun 3, 2019 18:26:17 GMT 1
nobody is. drake fucks everybody over.
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Post by K1power on Jun 12, 2019 16:38:33 GMT 1
 Happening this Saturday. Schwarz is not expected to give Fury much trouble, but we've been surprised before.. |
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Post by K1power on Jun 16, 2019 11:46:30 GMT 1
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Post by K1power on Jun 16, 2019 11:48:05 GMT 1
And just for completions sake a result from a week ago that I missed:
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Post by lero on Jul 19, 2019 23:36:40 GMT 1
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Post by K1power on Jul 22, 2019 17:46:35 GMT 1
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Post by lero on Jul 25, 2019 6:49:04 GMT 1
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Post by K1power on Jul 29, 2019 18:58:31 GMT 1
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Post by themagi on Jul 31, 2019 13:18:10 GMT 1
Very sad situation. Two lives lost in the space of days alongside, at best, a terrible act of selfishness or; if you look at it another way, evidence of a ghastly cover up. So many questions that will probably never be answered and with today's tornado like news cycle, that's just the way that Dillian Whyte's legal team will prefer it to stay. IDK why the subject of PED's in combat sports gets my dander up as much as it does, but when there's all the elements of underhanded dogshittery, as there appears to be here, coupled with what are purported to be journalists in both print and video form who are simply an embarrassment to the word, both misrepresenting and inaccurately reporting the truth, then I just get the urge to type. This will be in more than one part (not that anybody will read it), as I feel their is a lot to unpack: Drug Testing The Dillian Whyte-Oscar Rivas fight had several "strands" of drug testing attached to it, that being two agencies conducting testing with both having slightly different methods and rulings, which is a debate in itself sadly, those agencies being VADA (Voluntary Anti Doping Association) and UKAD (United Kingdom Anti Doping). VADA were in an intriguing position in that Whyte allegedly pays for their services, for both himself and his opponent, for random testing that begins at an undetermined time, decided by either Whyte (red flag!) or both parties mutually, and ends with a post fight test. It is important to note that despite reports to the contrary, it is my understanding that Whyte is not in VADA's 24/7/365 program and chooses to simply employ VADA in the period both before and after fights (as do virtually all fighters who use VADA, it should be noted). The intrigue comes in the form of the WBC's own drug testing policy, Clean Boxing Program, which purports to randomly test all of their top 15 ranked contenders across all of the seventeen weight divisions and the female only Atomweight division. The WBC chose to use a drug testing agency to oversee and conduct the actual running of the CBP, paying $15k a month to, you guessed it, VADA to do the leg work. A quick bit of maths: eighteen weight divisions with fifteen fighters each, with a fifteen thousand dollar monthly stipend to cover a testing procedure that costs three thousand dollars to effectively test a single fighter for a single camp equals a toothless program that is simply for keeping up appearances, that effectively cheapens the agency which actually conducts the testing that they are almost guaranteed to not discover any cheats. It is not known currently how many times, if at all, that VADA tested both Whyte and Rivas in conjunction with the WBC's Clean Boxing Program, or in their position for this fight as an independent drug testing contractor. UKAD were also in position as the drug testing agency of choice for the British Boxing Board of Control, who oversee all pro boxing in the UK. I have posted in depth before about UKAD and their somewhat divergent attitude to doling out punishments to offenders, so forgive me if I write with an air of familiarity over this. UKAD operate with an "in competition" rule, that virtually no other agency uses to my knowledge, this being that substances that are declared 'specified', and would be banned from use at any time under any other drug testing agency, can be used up until 72 hours before competition. 'Specified' substances are banned at all times under, for example, VADA, but under the WADA (World Anti Doping, which set the parameters for the agencies to test and decrees which substances are banned, or not) code, 'Specified' substances which show up in a test could potentially lead to a shorter suspension than an 'Unspecified' substance. Next part, I will take a look at what we know happened on
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