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Post by roy2015 (Banned) on Aug 2, 2015 1:23:58 GMT 1
I did say PAPER CHAMPS. There were also decisions pro-Americans.
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Post by rictor on Aug 2, 2015 2:55:26 GMT 1
Never mind the fact that the argument of "but that other org has way more hometown decisions so it's all good" is fundamentally fucked up to begin with. You do realise that blind fanboyism like that is something that actually makes SuperKombat and Irimia look bad?
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Post by dvewlsh on Aug 2, 2015 3:42:08 GMT 1
Never mind the fact that the argument of "but that other org has way more hometown decisions so it's all good" is fundamentally fucked up to begin with. You do realise that blind fanboyism like that is something that actually makes SuperKombat and Irimia look bad? SuperKombat itself is fine. The people who work there are fine, it's the crazy fans that make it unbearable. SuperKombat is a carefully crafted promotion that is clearly trying to build more local stars and they do so by booking their guys against fighters who are older and less capable, on extremely short notice or younger and unprepared. That's fine, but their kooky fans take it all too far. Some day I'm just going to stop bothering with SK and block every crazy fan. Doing what I do sucks, but literally the worst part at this point are the annoying US-based PR people who want me to post about local amateur cards and the Romanian fans who hound me about SuperKombat. SuperKombat is about as popular as Enfusion is, so it gets that kind of coverage. |
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Post by Shadess on Aug 2, 2015 7:28:40 GMT 1
SuperKombat is a carefully crafted promotion that is clearly trying to build more local stars and they do so by booking their guys against fighters who are older and less capable, on extremely short notice or younger and unprepared. That's fine, but their kooky fans take it all too far. As opposed to? Enfusion cards change, every, damn, time. I don't even bother keeping up with the changes till the day of. Their champs are fed people I've literally not ever heard of before. See:their last event. Glory matchups change on short notice. See: Glory france.
Tatneft literally just flipped their whole fucking card. All of it.
GFC gets opponents on a days notice, Saki fighting dudes who can't beat the #8 ranked guy from KOK etc. Oh yeah and the tournament Hari won wasn't exactly populated with the young and relevant fighters of today 
Kunlun has/had version numbers on their cards to make it easier to keep up with the changes lol.
Who in the kickboxing world does these things clearly better than others?
I would say this is just as true with these Glory merica matches.
Justin Baesman (who?) replacing Chad Sugden etc. Thats equally not replacing someone on a short-ish notice (even if that was Sugden's decision) and then just feeding someone to Daniels before his title shot?
Half of these Glory guys aren't even kickboxers but random MMA jobbers who come cheap.
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Post by kbfan on Aug 2, 2015 9:49:13 GMT 1
Roy2015 must be that Spong dude from sherdog, there's no other logical explanation  That Alex Filip decision was kind of bad but i think the Bogdan decision is ok, could have went either way from my point of view. |
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Post by K1power on Aug 2, 2015 16:20:32 GMT 1
As opposed to? Enfusion cards change, every, damn, time. I don't even bother keeping up with the changes till the day of. Their champs are fed people I've literally not ever heard of before. See:their last event. Glory matchups change on short notice. See: Glory france.
Tatneft literally just flipped their whole fucking card. All of it.
GFC gets opponents on a days notice, Saki fighting dudes who can't beat the #8 ranked guy from KOK etc. Oh yeah and the tournament Hari won wasn't exactly populated with the young and relevant fighters of today
Kunlun has/had version numbers on their cards to make it easier to keep up with the changes lol.
Who in the kickboxing world does these things clearly better than others?
I would say this is just as true with these Glory merica matches.
Justin Baesman (who?) replacing Chad Sugden etc. Thats equally not replacing someone on a short-ish notice (even if that was Sugden's decision) and then just feeding someone to Daniels before his title shot?
Half of these Glory guys aren't even kickboxers but random MMA jobbers who come cheap.Thing is, we give all these promotions a ton of shit when there are royal fuck ups - which is the way it should be! SuperKombat shouldn't be spared, especially with the argument of pointing fingers at other orgs as if that somehow justifies anything. That's just disgusting fanboyism. And like Dave said it's the fanboys (that often have very limited knowledge of the sport to begin with) that make it unbearable. |
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Post by Shadess on Aug 2, 2015 16:24:39 GMT 1
From what I see Superkombat easily gets the most shit for the same stuff other promotions do. Enfusion the least.
Difference being the community in large part being dutch likes to hate on Romanians but soooo much more rarely shits on their own baby.
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Post by K1power on Aug 2, 2015 16:34:49 GMT 1
From my personal point of view SuperKombat fucks up the worst and most consistently. At least when we're looking at and compare them to all the more serious orgs that consistently put on shows. No need to compare them to GFC for example. Nobody with active braincells takes GFC serious.
And this is coming from someone who wants SuperKombat to do well, gives them 'coverage' and had the fortune to be able to support them by attending an SK event that happened near enough for me to be there.
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Post by Shadess on Aug 2, 2015 16:53:29 GMT 1
Can't really think much at all that SK has fucked up this year for example. Few dubious decisions sure but you can pretty easily find those anywhere.
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Post by roy2015 (Banned) on Aug 2, 2015 16:55:25 GMT 1
From what I see Superkombat easily gets the most shit for the same stuff other promotions do. Enfusion the least. Difference being the community in large part being dutch likes to hate on Romanians but soooo much more rarely shits on their own baby. Exactly. They have a sort of pride but are not shiting on others. |
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Post by K1power on Aug 2, 2015 17:01:45 GMT 1
Perhaps elsewhere, not on Kakutougi. You're free to disagree, but if you're being fair you know it to be true.
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Post by Shadess on Aug 2, 2015 18:30:36 GMT 1
Duh |
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Post by rictor on Aug 2, 2015 20:40:44 GMT 1
You probably won't find anyone more negative towards Glory than I am around the net so I think I'm being quite fair  |
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Post by dvewlsh on Aug 2, 2015 21:39:38 GMT 1
Nobody is under the delusion that Enfusion is on the level of GLORY, though.
Hell, Edwin van Oss, who owns Enfusion and manages most of the talent recently sent out a press release saying that Ilias Bouliad will be taking a "step up in competition" and will be taking more bookings outside of Enfusion. That, to me, is a promoter saying "we aren't booking the best of the best."
Maybe the crazies on MixFight are all up in Enfusion's stuff, but most of us see it as kinda junk with a few decent fighters here and there.
All I gotta say is this, Enfusion fans aren't sending me private messages like this on here;
"You are a writer not a critic. SK came second or third on any forum. "
Literally clueless.
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Post by dvewlsh on Aug 2, 2015 21:49:32 GMT 1
From what I see Superkombat easily gets the most shit for the same stuff other promotions do. Enfusion the least. Difference being the community in large part being dutch likes to hate on Romanians but soooo much more rarely shits on their own baby. Exactly. They have a sort of pride but are not shiting on others. Being obnoxious is not how you get respect. It comes across as desperate, sad and pathetic the way that you and other SK crazies act online. You embarrass Eduard, his staff and everyone involved with how you act. |
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