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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 18, 2021 21:38:26 GMT 1
I do not deny that at some point a Westerner may want a war, for good or bad, but here in the Israel-Palestine conflict I think it is clear. Imagine happening in Europe. The European Union should even control the history books in schools. And they don't. There are a few countries, very few, that promote a policy, doctrines of reunification and regain lost territory.
And Putin does not recognise the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, but Russia is not in the EU. For him, the Soviet Union was a hero (from the aggressor, together with Nazi Germany). Without changing any rule of politicians.
Almost every time the culprits are the least educated.
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Post by K1power on May 18, 2021 21:44:10 GMT 1
 I'm not condoning nor defending the persecution of Jews throughout history, but they went from being bullied to becoming the bullies. It's like their hardships taught them all the wrong lessons. And when I say 'they', I obviously only mean the assholes. They - or anobody else - can't defend this modern colonization with 'Jews have suffered!', 'This is their promised land!' or 'Actually, they lost this land first!' kickboxer (Banned): I'm not interested in getting into your whole digression about history. Ever heard of World War II? Pretty sure Holland got invaded in that one. And I'm actually German, they're pretty familiar with wars as well. Obviously I wasn't around for that, but neither were you when the Ottoman Empire existed. You make it sound like you fought them yourself lol. Don't act like you're some veteran and therefore get to lecture anyone from some pedestal of personal experience; 'The things I've seen!!!' Also, are you physically incapable of not shoehorning Romania into every topic? If for some reason you believe Israel has the right idea in this day and age, you can fuck right off. |
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 18, 2021 22:36:29 GMT 1
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 18, 2021 22:38:20 GMT 1
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Post by bol on May 18, 2021 23:28:30 GMT 1
Gaza is a nightmarish prison to live in, moving away settler houses didn't change that. The occupied lands are generally impossible to sustain in their current form. Of course such conditions are also ideal for religious extremists to gain followers as well as criminals and corrupt politicians seeking their fortune. That can only change if the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian lands ends. That's simply the only at least imaginable way I see for them to gain peace in the long run for both sides and build a Palestinian society. Otherwise there will just be an endless cycle of enemy image propaganda (and yes, there will be enough evil deeds on both sides to use for that) with religious and nationalistic corrupt politicians gaining and solidifying power. Which is what has happened in the last decades in Israel and the Palestinian lands. The Israeli far-right profits from Palestinian religious radicals and vice versa. Just read an interview with Moshe Zuckermann who said Netanjahu needs the Hamas and the Hamas needs Netanjahu. Otherwise, why should people vote for such leaders? And so of course these leaders have no interest for a peaceful solution, just repeated escalation and de-escalation.
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Post by K1power on May 18, 2021 23:30:00 GMT 1
kickboxer (Banned)1 - Stop making every topic about Romania. 2 - Even though you are wrong, you really only need to look at the first and last image to understand what's been happening. 3 - Palestine has lost exponentially more civilians than Israel:   www.ochaopt.org/content/casualties-thousands-killed-conflict-related-incidentsYou can dump your wikipedia 'knowledge' all day, you're not proving any points. Palestina is lucky still to control 40% of the West Bank (CisJordan). These people have the Jihad in blood.One more racist jab like this and you're gone.
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Post by K1power on May 18, 2021 23:32:26 GMT 1
Gaza is a nightmarish prison to live in, moving away settler houses didn't change that. The occupied lands are generally impossible to sustain in their current form. Of course such conditions are also ideal for religious extremists to gain followers as well as criminals and corrupt politicians seeking their fortune. That can only change if the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian lands ends. That's simply the only at least imaginable way I see for them to gain peace in the long run for both sides and build a Palestinian society. Otherwise there will just be an endless cycle of enemy image propaganda (and yes, there will be enough evil deeds on both sides to use for that) with religious and nationalistic corrupt politicians gaining and solidifying power. Which is what has happened in the last decades in Israel and the Palestinian lands. The Israeli far-right profits from Palestinian religious radicals and vice versa. I feel like in 25 years or so there'll be nothing left of Palestine. Nobody is going to help them. |
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Post by miscmisc on May 19, 2021 6:11:14 GMT 1
Some of you know that Israel is a very important matter for me ideologically and even personally.
If I were to talk extensively about the latest conflict, I would be simply repeating what I said in this thread in the past - a shit load of it - almost verbatim. So I will spare you that now.
One certain thing, though, is that the popular opinion in the US has been steadily shifting away from the hardline Zionist position. I see hardly any American commentator with centrist/center-left credentials, let alone progressive ones, defending the official Israeli position now. That wasn't the case at all 15 years ago, 12 years ago or even 7 years ago.
I suspect that what happened with Labour in the UK - the bogus antisemitism accusation to destroy Corbyn and his supporters - couldn't happen in the US now. It wouldn't have any legs to stand on. I suspect it's now easier to criticize Israel in the US than it is in the UK and Germany. That's pretty significant.
It is probably not the pace at which you wanted it to move, and the situation is still largely hopeless. The US status quo is still significantly "pro-Israel," but the dam is surely cracking.
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Post by miscmisc on May 19, 2021 6:29:31 GMT 1
As you can see, the "Clash of Civilizations" narrative has done harm to the psyche of many peoples with historical grievances, many of which have been invoked purely for political purposes, or simply made up in some cases. That kind of grievance-based line of thoughts has been hardwired into those people now, and Trumpism in the US does have something to do with that mode of thinking too; Outside the US, he was disproportionately popular in the regions in the world where appealing to historical grievances is a major mode of politics.
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Post by K1power on Jun 12, 2021 20:56:20 GMT 1
Putting this here as I don't want to dirty up the Euro 2020 thread, but have to get it off my chest.
When Googling Eriksen to find an update on his status minutes after he was carried off the field, among the first results presented to me were trending Tweets from the anti-vax vultures that suggested Eriksens medical emergency was a result of being vaccinated.
Never mind that similar incidents have been happening in football for years before COVID even existed.
Believing in crackpot theories is one thing, but using someone else's misfortune to hashtag your way to attention and further your agenda ranks you among the lowest types of filth in my book. It comforts me that these clowns were - for the most part - being decimated in the reactions.
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Post by miscmisc on Jun 15, 2021 19:40:11 GMT 1
Ed Yong, a science reporter/journalist/writer whom I've quoted many times in this thread, has just won the Pulitzer.
I normally don't give a rat's ass about that prize, but this time I'm very happy for him. I started following his work many years ago, way before the pandemic, and as soon as it became obvious that the "Wuhan virus" was going to be a huge problem for everyone, I knew he was going to play a major role in journalism. But I didn't know he was going to be THIS big.
To be perfectly honest, sometimes I found his attempts to thread the needle for constructing a story that sorta kinda unifies the Covid situation and contemporary politics a tad too much even though he has always done it fairly skillfully. Nonetheless, he has been consistently one of the calmest, sanest voices out there throughout this pandemic.
And I like this tweet by him a lot. This pretty much sums up why he and I are both left-wingers.
You rely on others, even including your competitors, in the community, in the society. Always. Your success is largely also theirs. You ought to recognize that, and be grateful. I quit being a libertarian-ish right-winger when that simple sentiment overwhelmed me through multiple personal events. It's so simple that it's painful to see this world dominated by delusional me-ism.
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Post by K1power on Jul 9, 2021 12:00:42 GMT 1
Not directly Euro related so, again, trying to avoid dirtying that thread; Euro 2020 star Ousmane Dembele in race storm for mocking Asian hotel workers in video with Antoine Griezmann. www.scmp.com/sport/football/article/3139698/euro-2020-star-ousmane-dembele-race-storm-mocking-asian-hotelThose two hypocrite, racist pieces of shit. I guess for Dembélé BLM only matters because it affects him, but when he's dishing out it's fine. I hope this ends up hurting them, but they'll probably be fine. It's funny, when a comedian says something offensive that has no actual ill intent behind it everybody appears to be losing their fucking mind and they end up losing gigs, but then something nasty like this happens it doesn't seem to make the same waves. That's some completely backwards shit. Oh well, at least Konami is dropping Griezmann from PES. |
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Post by K1power on Jul 15, 2021 17:11:01 GMT 1
Famous Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries passed away today after being shot in the streets last week. He was a witness in a big trial surrounding the head of the so called 'Mocro Mafia', who is essentially the Dutch-Moroccan version of El Chapo.
De Vries is the latest victim with ties to the case to get silenced, but this one hit me differently. I've watched this man cover crime since I was a kid and while he had a very polarizing personality, I always liked the guy. He made interesting television, solved a lot of high profile cases and always stood up for minorities.
Despite realising his life was in very real danger, he refused any kind of security detail. He was truly fearless.
The Netherlands lost a good man today.
RIP Peter.
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Jul 19, 2021 12:23:23 GMT 1
RIP, I saw on Alise's Insta. He was the Dutch Giuliani. Imo he needed security.
This is true mafia.
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Post by K1power on Jul 19, 2021 15:25:35 GMT 1
I deleted your posts.
Please don't derail this thread into gossip and sensationalism.
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