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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 14:07:20 GMT 1
Simply amazing. This is almost unnatural.  |
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 14:10:46 GMT 1
Looks similar in parts of Canada. Both even worse than in South Africa, and I'm not sure that's solely because of the higher testing rates.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 14:16:59 GMT 1
But again, the immediate danger will be caused by the Delta patients (overwhelmingly unvaccinated) occupying hospital beds everywhere now. Delta patients tend to stay in the beds for a very long time too. The problem is the base level; It's already substantially elevated.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 14:30:16 GMT 1
Seriously, how will the hospitals be able to handle this?
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 14:56:43 GMT 1
If you do lateral flow test for Covid, do so *immediately* before whatever event/gathering you will attend. Way too many people don't understand that. It would be near useless otherwise especially with Omicron.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 15:13:42 GMT 1
Some good news from South Africa:  The pace of hospitalizations is slowing, and in Gauteng, the Omicron hotbed, both the infections and hospitalizations are plateauing. A lot of deaths will probably follow, but it might be manageable over there in terms of the healthcare system. South Africa had a pretty horrible Delta wave last summer, and this Omicron cycle might end up being less severe than that. But remember: The Delta wave was on the steady decline when Omicron emerged over there. The healthcare system wasn't overstretched when it started, which cannot be said for many other countries. In many countries in Europe and many states in the US - hell, even in South Korea - the hospitals are absolutely overstretched with Delta, and in a considerably worse situation than they were around this time last winter. |
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 15:29:34 GMT 1
Again, I don't see how the hospitals will be able to deal with an Omicron wave in the countries/areas/states where the hospitals are already shutting down elective surgeries (which doesn't mean some unimportant cosmetic surgeries, in case you misunderstand the medical term) due to the Delta waves. It seems physically monumentally difficult.
I mean, I do believe they will, somehow. But I just don't see how.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 15:41:17 GMT 1
My biggest fear of China comes from the possibility that Xi Jinping is a complete fool who only knows how to bluff (mostly to his own colleagues). None of his actions so far have lessened that suspicion of mine.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 15:48:12 GMT 1
The US for instance was going to have a bad Covid winter even without Omicron. People were dying, and were going to die en masse. And it was all Delta. That's the base line I'm talking about here. Of course there's nothing to make me feel good about any of it. Of course it's hard to see an optimistic scenario to come true.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 16, 2021 17:53:34 GMT 1
The "vaccine efficacy" only deals with infection, so basically this kind of charts only tell you about the first layer of defense, that is the antibodies/neutralization. It's a very incomplete picture considering that the neutralization process is only one part of the whole immune system, but when the efficacy and longevity vary between the products to this degree, not recognizing that or pretending that the disparity doesn't exist is simply wrong. Or to be more precise, it's not right anymore in this post-Delta age.  |
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 17, 2021 5:10:52 GMT 1
The whole anti-standardized-test thing is seriously misguided, and a clear path for self-destruction. It's the anti-woke reactionaries that will be the ultimate winners, as they will be "vindicated" after this kind of crap ends up ruining the US education and even academia, which, believe me, it will, 150%. This is not progress; It's clear regression. Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-optional push growsThe fast-spreading movement aims to limit the role of the standardized exams in college admissions www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/12/16/harvard-test-optional-college-admissions/ |
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 17, 2021 6:23:34 GMT 1
Sweet Jesus.  I suspect even the "It's just CASEDEMIC, Sheeple!" fools would be a tad scared of this chart. A they say, a small percentage of a huge number is still a very big number. |
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 17, 2021 6:29:24 GMT 1
All these nearly vertical lines going straight up. You rarely see them outside hard science like physics, chemistry etc and the engineering field.
London really is a canary in the coal mine, and it will happen to many - if not all - other well-connected large cities in the world sooner or later. It will be sudden and quick, in the totally next-thing-you-know way.
As I've often said in this thread over the years, Britain strives to be the frontrunner at everything, both good and bad. And indeed they very often are, as they have consistently been in this pandemic since Italy passed the torch to them.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 17, 2021 13:42:54 GMT 1
These clowns are really amusing.
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Post by miscmisc on Dec 17, 2021 14:28:53 GMT 1
Very true, and same here. That - fetishizing "dialogue" - is one strange thing about American liberals. They value it so much, yet never seem to actually enjoy any of it. And if you ask them what the hell the point was, they look at you like you're an insufferable punk.
You usually get zero intellectual or even political benefit from "having dialogues" with your ideological opponents. It's usually a waste of time from a purely pragmatic point of view. You shouldn't do it unless you are curious and do enjoy it.
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