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Post by K1power on Dec 4, 2023 18:07:58 GMT 1
Their international comeback would be more or less dead in the water if they can't figure that stuff out.
I wonder if there'll be English/Schiavello commentary for this one, considering it comes across as ReBirth in name only.
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Post by larsenator on Dec 5, 2023 11:34:38 GMT 1
Schiavello just told me that there is no international broadcast for the next event. Hence he is not doing commentary.
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Post by vampiro on Dec 5, 2023 13:51:03 GMT 1
Who didn't see this coming though? I knew nothing would come of this. I am doubting them bringing back the Grand Prix's also.
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Post by Shadess on Dec 5, 2023 15:32:52 GMT 1
Damn. They really goofed up this international expansion.
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Post by K1power on Dec 5, 2023 18:20:30 GMT 1
The moment the first batch of fights was announced I suspected this would be ReBirth in name only and larsenator just made it official. I've been skeptical since this whole thing was announced, but I think it's still fair to chalk these recent missteps up to start-up problems/growing pains. If a few stumbles are enough to derail their whole expansion masterplan, then I don't know what to say. They said the proper kick-off to their expansion would be in 2024 so I think things can still end up being fine. What I will say though is that I hate when companies don't keep the public in the loop and K-1 has been guilty of this where we've had to find stuff out through unofficial channels. All of that said this is still a pretty decent looking card that I look forward to. |
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Post by larsenator on Dec 5, 2023 21:11:28 GMT 1
Fingers crossed: who wouldn't want the old days of K-1 heavy weight tourneys back again?!
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Post by Fox on Dec 5, 2023 23:51:38 GMT 1
For not even a second did I believe in a "rebirth" lol K-1 has their hands full just trying to compete with RISE for the Japanese regional market.
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Post by Shadess on Dec 7, 2023 13:16:10 GMT 1
Think K-1 still has brand value globally and they could easily generate some revenue from markets outside Japan. Just there must be some rights/legal issues still, even if they claimed to own the whole thing. Nothing else to really explain why the DAZN deal exploded in their hands like it did.
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Post by larsenator on Dec 7, 2023 13:49:05 GMT 1
Yup: people know K-1!
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Post by K1power on Dec 7, 2023 19:00:23 GMT 1
I think it's very possible that K-1 Japan inherited some problems from K-1 FEG and/or K-1 Global as they both owed a lot of people money.
It may have been a while, but I'm pretty sure I've told this story before either on this forum or the old Kakutougi so some of you may already be familiar with it. Either way, I was at the K-1 World Grand Prix 2013 in Zagreb with some friends. At the event I met Alin Huiu - who was working for SuperKombat at the time and currently is part of the Dynamite Fight Show management - and he introduced me to Eduard Irimia - who was and technically still is (?) - the president of SuperKombat. We talked about the event for a minute and then Irimia grabbed his phone and said something along the lines of "K-1 is fucked, they cannot broadcast events internationally anymore" and showed me some e-mails that according to him confirmed it.
I was kinda surprised that he'd share such sensible information with a total stranger he just met two minutes ago, but a few minutes later we both went our ways and I didn't give it much thought after. Thinking back, K-1 Global didn't do a lot of big events anymore after the one in Zagreb and the ones they did only aired on small-time local networks and streaming platforms. I'm not sure how accurate Irimia's information was and I may be forgetting some important details, but if there were international broadcasting issues connected to the K-1 brand at the time I can imagine that having some unforeseen ramifications for K-1 Japan today.
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Post by lero on Dec 8, 2023 18:36:17 GMT 1
Seems like ReBirth events are being officially broadcasting in China now.
I think is just a negotiation issue. They should have solved ($$$$) all the international restriction stuff with the THE MATCH money.
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Post by K1power on Dec 9, 2023 13:29:23 GMT 1
ResultsOuyang Feng defeats Hiromi Wajima by KO R2 Matsukura Shintaro defeats Hasan Toy by Extra Round Split Decision Remy Parra defeats Leona Pettas by Majority Decision Kaneko Akihiro defeats Lan Shanteng by Unanimous Decision Liu Ce defeats Tanigawa Seiya by KO R1 Kawakami Kyo defeats Toma by Unanimous Decision Usami Hide Meison defeats Kaito by KO R2 Suzuki Hayato defeats Toyoki by KO R3 Kuroda Toma defeats Issei Ishii by Unanimous Decision Antonia Prifti defeats Kana by Unanimous Decision Saho defeats Li Lishan by Unanimous Decision Sugawara Miyuu defeats Lucille Deadman by Unanimous Decision Yamaguchi Shota defeats Hoshi Ryunosuke by KO R3 Riki Matsuoka defeats Jomthong Strikergym by Unanimous Decision Oiwa Tatsuya defeats Yuto Shinohara by KO R1 Kaneda Shoki defeats Daawsyaam Wor.Wanchai by KO R1 Tsubakihara Tatsuya defeats Kensuke by Unanimous Decision Riku defeats Abiral Himalayan Cheetah by Unanimous Decision Yamawaki Tsubasa defeats Matsuba Toya by Unanimous Decision Murata Kengo defeats Horii Kaito by Unanimous Decision Matsumoto Haruto defeats Kaishi by KO R1 Amano Sota defeats Harada Toki by KO R2 Gentaro defeats Yoshimura Takumi by Unanimous Decision www.k-1.co.jp/schedule/16606Didn't have the time to tune in to this, but some surprising results here and there. How was it? Were the decisions okay? I'll catch up with this when it becomes available.
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Post by K1power on Dec 9, 2023 13:31:17 GMT 1
I think is just a negotiation issue. They should have solved ($$$$) all the international restriction stuff with the THE MATCH money. I mean sure, money solves everything. The issue is the limit of what's feasible for K-1 to spend. |
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Post by vampiro on Dec 9, 2023 13:33:30 GMT 1
I actually didn't see the main card, but I watched everything else. Prifti beating KANA was not surprising to me at all. I watched some of her prior to the fight, and while I didn't made a prediction on her winning, I did think she stood a good chance. She bossed that fight. Loved how annoyed she was post fight with the media obligations lol.
Hoshi fights with straw and dust in his head. He will never amount to anything. He had Yamaguchi hurt and multiple times and simply walked into danger at every turn. Dude is all physical, no mental.
Jomthong looked like his usual self until the second round. He knew he'd lost come the final bell. Shame for him.
Himalayan Cheetah fight was a good one. Both were getting hurt.
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Post by K1power on Dec 9, 2023 13:46:40 GMT 1
Haven't seen this latest fight of his yet, but Hoshi looks like he spends most time lifting weights and hitting the punch-o-meter with his friends.
As for Cheetah I'm kinda worried about him losing most of his fights, at least his K-1 fights.
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