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Post by miscmisc on Apr 14, 2022 13:52:49 GMT 1
The Americans and others who seem to be genuinely shocked that most of the "third world" hasn't been on board with the sanctions against Russia ought to really get out more. Yes, there's obviously realpolitik and food/energy security concerns behind their stance, but the "US/NATO hypocrisy" sentiment is not just a Western Leftist thing, but a real global thing shared by literally hundreds of millions of people regardless of their political views.
Some people *still* don't seem to understand how damaging the Iraq War, Palestine, Kosovo, Yemen etc. were/are. They can't hear the collective "Yeah, right..." echoing around the globe.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 14, 2022 13:58:58 GMT 1
Ships can remain afloat while being completely inoperative anyway.
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Post by gols on Apr 14, 2022 15:31:36 GMT 1
Er, what? That clown that I saw on TV the other day? Whatever happened to the super-wealthy Indian dude? Well, no wonder Johnson is staying. The super-weatlthy dude has received a police fine for breaking Covid lockdown rules along with Johnson. So if Johnson gets the boot/ resigns (yeah, right) for that, they can't really replace him with his fellow offender... (you'd think, but it's the Conservatives so hey)
He has also got a lot of heat recently for failing to do anything remotely helpful to ease the burdon on the public due to the energy costs and general cost of living crisis that's going on right now. Whilst stories of just how super-wealthy he is keep coming out, including how his even-more-super-wealthy wife has been avoiding UK tax.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 14, 2022 18:09:53 GMT 1
Er, what? That clown that I saw on TV the other day? Whatever happened to the super-wealthy Indian dude? Well, no wonder Johnson is staying. The super-weatlthy dude has received a police fine for breaking Covid lockdown rules along with Johnson. So if Johnson gets the boot/ resigns (yeah, right) for that, they can't really replace him with his fellow offender... (you'd think, but it's the Conservatives so hey)
He has also got a lot of heat recently for failing to do anything remotely helpful to ease the burdon on the public due to the energy costs and general cost of living crisis that's going on right now. Whilst stories of just how super-wealthy he is keep coming out, including how his even-more-super-wealthy wife has been avoiding UK tax.
Yeah, I figured that being way too rich for his own good was his achilles heel (Yes, that's possible!), but that "Liz" person sounded like a completely soulless bot, an inexplicably nervous talking-point AI. We are not talking about the Japanese PM, the stupidest job in the world that even a donkey can do, but about the British PM here. There must be some minimum standards for intelligence. I hate Johnson so much now that I'm in a mood to take anyone to replace him with. Even that super-wealthy dude. But I'm not really sure about this one, Liz Truss. She might actually be a downgrade. From Johnson. I'm very good at sniffing out the horrible ones. If you think she's pretty bad, well, she's probably worse. Is Mr. Fabricant available for the job? |
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 14, 2022 18:18:04 GMT 1
The Russian explanation for Moskva's trouble sounds ridiculous, but even if it was true, that would still suggest that big ships are a huge liability today. I mean, "ammunitions exploded and everyone had to evacuate." OK, so Moskva became a giant floating death pyro show. In other words, dangerous and useless.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 14, 2022 18:41:51 GMT 1
The pandemic really transformed Ed Yong into a writer who can weave a story by integrating complex scientific facts and raw human emotions. He's very angry in this piece. I've been angry too, but it was aimless, confused anger. And now Ed rectified it for me. It's the lack of shared grief. More than one million American lives have been lost to Covid, and there's no sense of sharing the weight of it. It's all down to each individual, and they grab you, slap you in the face, and force you to move on - to where? - even when it's simply impossible for you. What a cold, cold society America has become. The Final Pandemic Betrayal
by Ed Yong www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/04/us-1-million-covid-death-rate-grief/629537/ |
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 15, 2022 2:43:30 GMT 1
So, Moskva *was* sunk, "while being towed in a storm" according to the Russians.
I'd bet all of my assets that it was indeed Neptune missiles. Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles are genuinely Ukrainian weapons, designed and made in Ukraine. Russia will never admit that their Black Sea fleet flagship was sunk by such things.
And, like I said, this is very bad news for all the large ships and carriers in the world.
You know, I kind of suspect that the US military is also reluctant to admit it was sunk so easily by a couple of *Ukrainian* cruise missiles. The Chinese have even better ones, you know.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 15, 2022 3:41:28 GMT 1
Yes, it's very hard to shoot even at a big target like a huge ship because the ocean is much much much huger, but people who make that kind of arguments for big ships ignore the fact that missiles are ridiculously cheap today, as opposed to the ships that cost utterly ridiculous fortunes (especially in the US).
You don't launch one and hope for the best, stupid.
The point is that you could easily afford to throw gazillions of missiles at the area to see if one or two of them stick, meaning hitting the jackpot. They just come down from the sky mostly due to gravity and hit you, with no explosions/intense heat, so there's very little that the ship can do for defense.
Therefore big ships - aircraft carriers in particular - are a bad idea. You can't refute this. The Chinese do have a lot of big ships too, but that's just the legacy, phallic symbols if you will.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 15, 2022 12:20:00 GMT 1
Yawn. Didn't they try this before, and completely failed?
Those people have this childish idea that they can build an industry pronto, just like that. You wish it were that easy. With such ridiculous assumptions they are pretty much insulting Taiwanese, South Koreans, etc. Russia has never had such discipline as a country.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 15, 2022 12:48:28 GMT 1
This is *exactly* why CNN+ (CNN streaming channel) has bombed. Concisely and masterfully explained.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 15, 2022 16:29:24 GMT 1
Never forget that the German industry's competitive advantage over Japan etc. depends mostly on the cheap oil and gas from Russia. Stopping that altogether would mean a hell of a lot more than one-time 2-3% GDP loss. Its mid-to-long-term effect would be enormous.
If you care deeply about Ukraine and the war, you will find what Germany is doing right now absolutely infuriating, because it's actually worse than doing nothing; The government is subsidizing oil and gas due to the high price and therefore effectively *encouraging* Germans to buy *Russian* oil and gas.
Yes, they are doing that for their industry, to prop it up in this tough environment. I'm sure you find it absolutely ridiculous, and it is, but that indicates how serious an economic damage the German elites think that the embargo would inflict on the German economy, whose ill effect would trickle down to the entire Central European economy soon enough.
I'm not saying they are right; I actually think they are kind of wrong on that assumption. But I'm just saying that's what's going on.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 16, 2022 0:52:25 GMT 1
The (Kadyrovtsy) Chechens have been releasing these cheesy PR videos every other day - while you see almost zilch footage of regular Russian troops - in the middle of the fucking war.
You do get the impression that they've been just largely fucking around, terrorizing civilians mostly. I don't know if they changed their PR strategy or something, but this childish crap isn't working. They are making a fool of themselves, and the mythos around them is steadily fading away.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 16, 2022 1:08:41 GMT 1
... says a country who has been helping Saudi Arabia deliberately cause the horrendous famine in Yemen which has killed a monstrous number of Yemenis already.
Do these people ever look in the mirror and see how grotesque they look?
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 16, 2022 1:15:52 GMT 1
I can't see a scenario for Russia where they will not lose almost everything. It's pretty clear that they will even lose much of their influence on Central Asia. Turkey is already offering the Turkic peoples in the region - their ancestral Mother Land in their mythology - an "alternative", that is going under the Turkish umbrella.
Russia humiliated Turkey in Syria over and over again. What a turnaround.
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Post by miscmisc on Apr 16, 2022 1:27:51 GMT 1
Again, the world of literature.
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