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Post by Shadess on May 19, 2021 20:10:01 GMT 1
Same Bhugwandass from Glory?
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Post by Shadess on May 19, 2021 20:15:22 GMT 1
Wish Glory did some kickboxing show/podcast (again). Sorta funny seeing a Glory fighter hosting a show on Enfusion youtube and another Glory fighter being a guest on it. Do a show with Bonjasky or Valtellini or someone and just talk about the events/fighters/divisions and try and cultivate some kind of a community around the show and Glory.
They did do a Glory podcast before but their youtube wasn't as big then and if I remember right it was mostly like a fight week thing anyway they kinda just did since they were there anyway.
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 19, 2021 20:16:28 GMT 1
WFL put some beautiful events, and at some point didn't they have 2 parts? Long events? Or was it only the A1WCC? Melvin is doing what he can't now. It's not on TV maybe? He must be losing big money otherwise with these events.
Yeah, the same.
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Post by K1power on May 19, 2021 20:32:20 GMT 1
Same Bhugwandass from Glory? The very same. The one difference here may be that he isn't a last minute replacement and had more time to prepare, but who knows.. |
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 20, 2021 14:32:08 GMT 1
Come on, he is a 29-year old in Glory who lost his first fight after the 17-0 record.   Definitely a top class material! I think Melvin's other bum (Kuijpers, a practitioner, not an amateur), who fought Shumarov in the co main event, is actually better. He looked like an amateur. In fact, he has nothing to do with kickboxing at all. |
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Post by K1power on May 20, 2021 19:25:11 GMT 1
So what are your accomplishments in life, aside from getting banned everywhere you sign up? Perhaps take a good long look at yourself, your double standards and hypocrisy before calling anyone else a bum. At the very least read our forum rules that you love to ignore. You're on very thin ice. |
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 21, 2021 7:06:09 GMT 1
I have personally not seen many poorer fighters in such a promotion. He may have a potential but is a beginner. That 17-0 record was a fraud, very nice from him. Myself? I am not presenting myself what I am not at least. And I can't praise mediocrity.
Remember your opinions about Maurice Jackson.
To call somebody as a bum is seen on the fighting forums. Please define bashing if we have different rules here.
To bash means to denigrate, not to speak the truth, to have an opinion (different) or to bring a critic in favour of a better kickboxing.
Now let's not talk more about this subject. I will try to be more friendly as well.
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Post by K1power on May 21, 2021 7:55:12 GMT 1
I have personally not seen many poorer fighters in such a promotion. He may have a potential but is a beginner. That 17-0 record was a fraud, very nice from him. Myself? I am not presenting myself what I am not at least. And I can't praise mediocrity. You don't praise mediocrity? The vast majority of the Romanian fighters you promote are (below) mediocre. Hence my double standards comment. Of course you'll argue this point until your blue in the face, but the fact that rarely anyone agrees with you should tell you everything you need to know. Remember your opinions about Maurice Jackson. So? I stand by what I said. I'm not saying you can't have a low opinion of a fighter. Heck I think everyone here will agree with you that Bhugwandass so far has looked plain bad. He obviously was brought in by Glory to lose and if anyone has been vocal about that it's me. There's a difference between saying that and calling fighters bums, though. I wouldn't make an issue out of it if you didn't have a history of making disrespectful comments. We all get frustrated sometimes and that translates into our posts. That should really go without saying and I don't want to censor anyone's ability to express themselves. This is why I rarely step in and usually I don't have to. To call somebody as a bum is seen on the fighting forums. Please define bashing if we have different rules here. Making disrespectful comments towards fighters. Is there really any other way to interpret this? And I couldn't care less about how other fight forums handle it. This is not Sherdog (and even they banned you). To bash means to denigrate, not to speak the truth, to have an opinion (different) or to bring a critic in favour of a better kickboxing. How is calling someone a bum not denigrating? How is calling someone a bum 'speaking the truth'? How is expressing an opinion 'speaking the truth'? There's no such thing. Now let's not talk more about this subject. I will try to be more friendly as well. Please do try, because I won't put up with having to correct you every other post. |
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 21, 2021 11:51:55 GMT 1
I have personally not seen many poorer fighters in such a promotion. He may have a potential but is a beginner. That 17-0 record was a fraud, very nice from him. Myself? I am not presenting myself what I am not at least. And I can't praise mediocrity. You don't praise mediocrity? The vast majority of the Romanian fighters you promote are (below) mediocre. Hence my double standards comment. Of course you'll argue this point until your blue in the face, but the fact that rarely anyone agrees with you should tell you everything you need to know. You don't need to lie for a reason. I've never even promoted 2nd tier Romanians for instance (Maxim, Lapusneanu, maybe Ristea, maybe Nastase and so on who are still solid/respectable fighters), JUST the cream. Most of the cream is at the level that Ghita and Adegbuyi were at. You Dutch have a very good impression of yourself. Don't you see what kickboxers Romania brings out? You will remember why I am writing now, sure between Orza, Boboc and Sofian (I am not mentioning Busuioc, Stangaciu and others), if they stay active, 1 or 2 at least will reach a very high level. And when I say big, I'm sure they will be anywhere in the top 8 in the world. Under-18 faces. Boboc is 16 years old.  ) I am not mentioning proven kickboxers or close to proven. If the Dutchmen were losing to Romania in the times of Catinas, Stoica brothers, Adegbuyi and maybe Paraschiv, I give you my word of honour that I know what is happening in gyms and the Romanian kickboxing has only increased. Many boxing coaches are now kickboxing coaches, the number of coaches has increased, and so has the number of practitioners. We didn't have very young practitioners before and so many. Now we have 5-6 year old girls, some even doing well. I can show you sparrings between 13-year-olds who could already make their debut at professionals, who are already beating 18-year-olds. I don't understand this harsh comment, because even you told me you like Cozmanca. Why so pissed off? Because I called Kuijpers and Bhugwandass bums? I think Ion Grigore walks through Bhugwandass for instance and he's a 45-year old fighting in the lower tier KO Masters. Kuijpers would hardly enter on a Dynamite card. On the Colosseum card, yes, because it's huge and they have more events. And I don't want to turn any discussion into a comparison. Please! Holland is the queen scene. But if you insist, I can present you almost the entire Romanian scene. I think that the peaks Holland still offers are over us (and the world), and it will stay the same for a while if we don't lift our kickboxing incredibly (over night you can't really, it's a long process) or if the Dutch will no longer have immigrants in this sport. On the last Colosseum cards I have seen 20-year-old absolute beginners, not very gifted but strong, but who already have enough technique and in just 2-3 years will develop a much better technique than that of some bums signed by Hemmers for Glory. Though they will not be worth. But in Glory bums are worth. The new face from Romania are not even 30% of what the scene will look like in 4-5 years from now. The fact that the Dutch matchmakers have behaved terribly and that we do not have enough foreign relationships at the moment to run all the fighters, will only help us to establish the most powerful pool in the world. Holland does not stagnate in kickboxing, but decreases, plus fighters are lost to the detriment of MMA. In Romania there is interest and investors, besides TV money. When the scene materialises, there will definitely be 1-2 names like Irimia. Unlike others, when did I lie about Holland? It seems that the fact that I had a pro-Dutch attitude did not help you. Good luck with praising others then! The Romanian product is not fake and we have always referred to the Dutch. Time is an answer to untruths. |
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on May 21, 2021 12:05:00 GMT 1
You are upset that I laughed about Bhugwandass, but you will get convinced and I am not a racist either or something. Most of the opinion about Bhugwandass, Wrzosek and even Gashi was the same. Not about Clancy, because people didn't know him.
I really want to apologise! Also you were most upset by my opinion about Palestine. That was my opinion in the context of a treaty signed in the 1940s. Which is like a contract, and if both sides sign it then it must be respected. One of my best friends are Muslims, but Muslims (not Hamas terrorists).
It was probably better to keep quiet. But I felt that somehow it's injustice.
In rest I don't understand why the people are so mean nowadays, and unrighteous. I feel this is not coldness.
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Post by K1power on May 21, 2021 12:45:34 GMT 1
I really don't care for these long winded posts of yours. They're badly structured and the main gist of them is 'Romania is awesome'. I'd say most of the participants on the upcoming Colosseum card are mediocre. Not just the Romanian fighters. It's a low level card from a smaller promotion so the talent will most likely not be great, at least not at this point in their careers. And that's okay, that's not an insult. You firmly believe some of them will be world champions in a few years, I'm not convinced. Let them prove it. Talk is cheap. And you always say that I'm praising the Dutch, but if you paid any kind of attention at all you would have noticed that I'm usually very critical of everything happening in Glory. While part of me is happy that we're finally getting a big event with some international talent again, I can't just ignore the major gripes I have with Glory either. But I digress.. You are upset that I laughed about Bhugwandass, but you will get convinced and I am not a racist either or something. Most of the opinion about Bhugwandass, Wrzosek and even Gashi was the same. Not about Clancy, because people didn't know him. I really want to apologise! Also you were most upset by my opinion about Palestine. That was my opinion in the context of a treaty signed in the 1940s. Which is like a contract, and if both sides sign it then it must be respected. One of my best friends are Muslims, but Muslims (not Hamas terrorists). It was probably better to keep quiet. But I felt that somehow it's injustice. In rest I don't understand why the people are so mean nowadays, and unrighteous. I feel this is not coldness. When you make a shitty, racist comment you should expect to be called out for it. And I'm definitely not convinced that you're not racist. On the contrary. Your whole Romania superiority complex tells me that you are inherently - on some level - racist. And some of your comments just hammer it down further. Make it so that you don't constantly have to apologize in the first place. Alas, there won't be a 'next time'. Just drop the topic. |
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Post by Shadess on May 21, 2021 18:10:44 GMT 1
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Post by Shadess on May 21, 2021 18:11:26 GMT 1
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Post by K1power on May 21, 2021 18:17:02 GMT 1
Any notable fights?
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Post by Shadess on May 21, 2021 20:30:30 GMT 1
Not very. They are putting their HW title out there again, but not huge names. KOK has been doing quite small events for the covid time. This is pretty much the first event trying to get more back to normal for them.
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