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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Mar 5, 2021 22:47:12 GMT 1
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Post by K1power on Mar 5, 2021 23:29:20 GMT 1
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Post by K1power on Mar 5, 2021 23:36:43 GMT 1
I've read about Kyshenko's ban earlier today and I honestly can't say I'm shocked. The last thing that comes up my mind when I look at Kyshenko is 'natural'. However, the Dutch article is written in a way that suggests he can't fight anywhere for 4 years, when really that should just apply to France. That said, Kyshenko hasn't had a meaningful fight in years and the one fight everyone would like to see him in is against Doumbé, a French guy. Guess this doesn't improve the chances of that happening, but oh well.. |
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Mar 6, 2021 13:04:42 GMT 1
Roman Kryklia was also suspended for 4 years, but in his case it only applies to France. Why do you think Guto switched to MMA? And others to boxing? Or some are not fighting, such as Machado. Hardly you can fight outside of Brazil maybe with the last punishments. The Kyshenko suspension is probably for any kickboxing event. That's why he also made boxing debut. ffkmda.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ROMAN-KRYKLIA_compressed.pdfIt seems that I was right with Kryklia.  He was almost double in just some weeks/months. Remember I posted the photo... I feel like others from Gridin Gym are also doped! A Belarusian who fought in Superkombat for instance, same body like Kyshenko. But no evidence of course, they should also test a Russian who was in Glory...  Those from the former Soviet Union and even ex Yugoslavia, and also the Latins, including the Spaniards, seem the most willing these days to dope. And probably immigrants to Holland. Brazilians and Soviets are injecting into their veins like hell.
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Mar 6, 2021 13:14:09 GMT 1
The suspension of Kryklia is equal to 0. He escaped incredibly easily. 4 years of nothing.
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Mar 6, 2021 14:16:17 GMT 1
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Post by K1power on Mar 6, 2021 15:03:01 GMT 1
Roman Kryklia was also suspended for 4 years, but in his case it only applies to France. Why do you think Guto switched to MMA? And others to boxing? Or some are not fighting, such as Machado. Hardly you can fight outside of Brazil maybe with the last punishments. The Kyshenko suspension is probably for any kickboxing event. That's why he also made boxing debut. There isn't a law that can prevent you from competing worldwide. I think it's mostly about promotions protecting their image; like when JBS got caught and fought outside of Glory for a while. He was still competing, just not in Glory or the US. ffkmda.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ROMAN-KRYKLIA_compressed.pdfIt seems that I was right with Kryklia. He was almost double in just some weeks/months. Remember I posted the photo... I feel like others from Gridin Gym are also doped! A Belarusian who fought in Superkombat for instance, same body like Kyshenko. But no evidence of course, they should also test a Russian who was in Glory... Those from the former Soviet Union and even ex Yugoslavia, and also the Latins, including the Spaniards, seem the most willing these days to dope. And probably immigrants to Holland. Brazilians and Soviets are injecting into their veins like hell. Dude , enough with your racist bullshit. Most pro fighters are on PEDs. It doesn't matter where they're from or who happens to get caught. Or do you think all Romanian fighters are clean, just because none of them pissed hot recently? I'm going to say this once; your next racist propaganda rant will be your last. |
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Post by Shadess on Mar 6, 2021 16:02:18 GMT 1
hahah
Yeah...I was going to ask if you think for example A Stoica doesn't/hasn't used PEDs? And I'm not looking for any "well he hasn't tested positive..." bs kind of answer, but that if you actually think he hasn't.
Indeed most pro fighters use something and quite frankly they'd be stupid not to.
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Mar 6, 2021 16:32:39 GMT 1
I can't believe you are defending the cheaters. Do you have a cheat statistic or what?
In tennis, for instance, not to mention MMA, most are clean. How many tests they have, it's hard not to get caught.
I am not defending idols and certainly not all of my "idols" are clean.
Kyshenko is a brute force, Inocente certainly is not too talented. Machado not so much.
There are definitely clean athletes as well. It's their problem that they were caught. These Ukrainians have been using PEDs for many years.
There are probably many others, but what is the direction of the sport? It should head to anti-doping.
PS. Guess what, at French events most were not doped! Clearly contradicts your theories. Who were the dopers? There were also Frenchmen at smaller events, but the Ukrainians, Hutnik and Lidon. Some without doping are 0.
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Mar 6, 2021 16:41:00 GMT 1
I refuse to believe that all the Dutch were doping in K-1. I also think that some Dutch gyms have been doped. Samedov blamed the Dutch when he was caught there. Soon after.
You may not believe me, but I know gyms where kickboxers don't dope. And in some countries, steroids are not yet banned, for instance.
If I were an athlete, maybe I would have used therapies but never PEDs. Their effects can be deadly, even if you want to cheat.
At the EU level, attempts are being made to ban steroids in all countries, and I believe there will be a fight against doping in the coming years. Like it should be. America can.
I apologise if I sounded racist. I just meant that some are capable of many, to the fullest.
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Post by Shadess on Mar 6, 2021 17:46:58 GMT 1
There really shouldn't be much of a fight against steroids. It's MOSTLY just bs to pretend how your sport/organization is clean and it's the appropriate thing to say in public.
Sure there are dangers with some substances or by completely overdoing things. But a lot are also just fine when used "correctly". I don't really know a lot of fighters but I've known athletes from other sports and the reality is that PED use is fucking rampant in anything competitive. To think it would somehow be less so in fighting when people aren't just competing to cross a finish line or score goals but trying to knock each other out...that would just be the height of naivety in my opinion.
Not getting caught doesn't mean you are clean.
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Post by K1power on Mar 6, 2021 20:15:34 GMT 1
Not getting caught doesn't mean you are clean. Can't emphasise this enough. Also, not all PEDs have visible effects. Not everyone will look like a tank, because some are taking stuff for better stamina, quicker recovery etc. Generally speaking though, when a fighter looks like a bodybuilder it's a dead giveaway. And that's the majority of fighters competing over 80kg's. Martial Arts training doesn't give you large muscles, on the contrary; you get compact and dry. Having large, bulky muscles pretty much contradicts how your body should look from boxing/kickboxing/BJJ etc. Even if a fighter hits the weightroom a lot or has crazy genetics, the most likely explanation is they're on something. Also, fighters blaming their gym after getting caught is such weak bullshit. Everyone is responsible for their own decisions. Sure, PEDs may be part of a gym's culture, but it always comes down to the individual. You just can't label certain countries like that. It's not the 40s anymore where you could pretty much pinpoint 'the usual suspects'. Today I pretty much assume everyone is on something and many are fortunate/smart enough to get tested inbetween cycles. Also urine tests are much easier to fool than blood tests. You can guess which type of test is mostly done in pro fighting. |
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Post by samurai1 on Mar 7, 2021 9:33:25 GMT 1
Also there are masking agents that you can use to hide it. Plus you can use lots of tricks like fake penis to "urinate" someone else urine.
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Post by Fox on Mar 7, 2021 20:15:04 GMT 1
Why would Kryklia need PEDs anyways? Being 6'7 and young not enough of a physical advantage?
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Post by kickboxer (Banned) on Mar 8, 2021 16:38:33 GMT 1
Why would Kryklia need PEDs anyways? Being 6'7 and young not enough of a physical advantage? Why? Because he was on clenbuterol and meldonium. Take a look at these photos:   At Chinuk, the ingredient seems to be mass and heavy doping. Well done, Gridin! They also use some beef a la Overeem now, for growing. |
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