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Post by kickboxing on Apr 22, 2014 13:04:54 GMT 1
My real gripe with all this is Glory's manipulation of rankings. It makes absolutely no sense that Ghita is ranked above Verhoeven at this point in time and by manipulating the rankings like they are doing they can 'get away' with crap like putting Saki in the LHW tournament above Ilunga. ghita reached two finals, championship tournament final and before grand slam one. verhoeven not. moreover, ko ratio of romanian is bigger than ko ratio of dutchman. that is the glory rankings system |
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Post by K1power on Apr 22, 2014 20:50:02 GMT 1
It's pretty simple; If you beat a fighter you should be ranked above him.
Rico beat Ghita so he should be ranked above him. Anything else is retarded.
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Post by kickboxing on Apr 22, 2014 22:26:54 GMT 1
but the system of glory is different than of liver kick. simple like that. maybe others do not agree with the liver kick system for instance. there are also different boxing/mma rankings systems. it is no general rule
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Post by h on Apr 22, 2014 23:13:34 GMT 1
if people disagree with the LK system then.... lol. its pretty damn simple and straight forward. im sorry but if number 3 beats number 2 then he should be ranked ahead of him. he BEAT him....
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Post by kickboxing on Apr 23, 2014 0:31:29 GMT 1
it is more complicated than you think and these guys are professional. they thought of everything
1.2.5. Ranking
GSI has an official ranking that is based on the performance of a fighter. During the ranking year, ranking is determined by winning or losing so-called ranking points.
Ranking points can only be won in the so-called ranking tournaments or in the single matches indicated or recognized by GSI.
In addition to the match regulations, there are also ranking regulations; see appendix A4.
Appendix A4
4. GLORY Fighter Rankings
4.1 Rules & Regulations Summary
This document describes the detailed operation of the GLORY Fighter Rankings.
4.1.1 The Basics
· In regular bouts sanctioned by GLORY, fighters win points as a percentage of their opponents current ranking points: 25% for a decision, 35% for a knockout or TKO
· If a fighter loses to a lower-ranked fighter in a regular bout, he loses 25% of the points difference between him and his opponent
· If a fighter loses to a higher-ranked fighter, he does not lose or gain any points
· In 8-man Slams and 16-man Grand Slams, fighters win points depending on how far they proceed in the tournament
· New fighters enter the system with a ranking determined using a combination of subjective and objective analysis of recent results against ranked fighters
· Initial rankings were set in December 2012 for heavyweight and lightweight divisions, and in March 2013 for the other four divisions. These rankings were mathematically calibrated based on the agreed principles of the system
· There are separate rankings for each of the six divisions, and fighters will generally only appear on one list at any given time but may change divisions when agreed
· Points expire on the anniversaries of the gaining of those points, using the formula:
o One-third subtracted on the first anniversary
o One-third subtracted on the second anniversary
o One-third subtracted on the third anniversary
o This includes the initial points allocated to each fighter as they enter the ranking system; however see the third Exception below
· It is intended that the number of points in the system stays reasonably constant after the first year, as the number of points expiring will be roughly equal to the number of points added
4.1.2 Rankings Release Procedures
A major rankings release occurs after each major GLORY Event, and is stamped with the date of the Event and the number 1, e.g. “Heavyweight Rankings 2013-04-06 Version 1”. The release of a major version is always planned in advance, must be signed off by GLORY officials before official release. If a division has had no changes, it will not be updated, just stamped with the new date
· All rankings releases include the movement of the fighters since the previous major release, for instance “5th, up 3”
Minor or revised rankings releases can occur at any time, for instance with the addition or removal of fighters or expiry of old points. These releases are stamped with a minor revision number and the date of the related major release, e.g. “Heavyweight Rankings 2013-04-06 Version 1.1 revised 2013-04-15”. It is not intended that these are always accompanied by press releases, unless they involve a change to the top rankings or introduction of a new fighter who GLORY would like to publicise
Live or provisional rankings releases happen immediately on the conclusion of a bout in a major GLORY Event. They are stamped with the numeral zero and a unique revision number, e.g. “Provisional Live Heavyweight Rankings 2013-04-06 Version 0.12”
· The only reason for there to be a “Version 2” of a major rankings release would be to correct an error in the officially published list
4.1.3 Exceptions
· A fighter who is injured or otherwise incapacitated for a period of time may be given a ‘protected’ number of ranking points, which delays the expiry of their existing points by a specified period
· GLORY management has the ultimate control over all rankings and may vary these rules or make specific amendments to the rankings from time to time
· During the first two years of operation, expiry of points may be delayed or implemented in a different manner to be decided
· Although draws are generally discouraged in the GLORY regulations, it is possible for these to occur due to medical interventions or other circumstances. In this case, 25% of the lower-ranked fighter’s ranking points are divided between the two fighters in proportion to their current points (see Example 1 below)
· Fighters who fight unranked opponents have their ranking points adjusted as though their opponent had two-thirds of their points. For instance, a fighter with 300 points can win 50 points (25% × 200) with a win or lose 25 points (25% × 100) with a loss
· Catchweight and out-of-division fights are treated for the higher-division fighter as though he is fighting an unranked fighter, and for the lower-division fighter with the full points from the higher division
· Ranking points are whole numbers. Rounding up to the nearest whole number occurs after each fight and points expiry. An exception occurs when the rounding would result in a tie for any position – in that case, the number is rounded down instead. In the very rare case of opponents who would move to the same number of points after their fight, the winner is given the higher number so that he leads the loser by one point.
4.1.4. Examples
1. Fighter A has 407 points, Fighter B has 377 points
o If Fighter A wins by decision: A 502, B 377
o If Fighter A wins by (T)KO: A 539, B 377
o If Fighter B wins by decision: A 400, B 479
o If Fighter B wins by (T)KO: A 400, B 520
o If the fight ends in a draw, 94¼ points are split according to the ratio 407:377 then rounded up to 49 and 46 respectively: A 456, B 423
2. Fighter A has 407 points and fights an unranked opponent
o The opponent is treated as though he has 271⅓ points
o If Fighter A wins by decision: A 475
o If Fighter A wins by (T)KO: A 502
o If Fighter A loses: A 374
3. Fighter A has 407 points in the 77 kg division, Fighter B has 377 points in the 70 4g division
o For Fighter A, it is just like case 2 above
o For Fighter B, it is just like case 1 above
o If Fighter A wins by decision: A 475, B 377
o If Fighter A wins by (T)KO: A 502, B 377
o If Fighter B wins by decision: A 374, B 479
o If Fighter B wins by (T)KO: A 374, B 520
4.1.5 4 Man, Slams and Grand Slams
· Fighters in 16-man Grand Slams receive the following total points:
o Lose in first round: 50 points
o Lose in second round: 100 points (i.e., 50 extra)
o Lose in semi-final: 180 points (+80)
o Lose in final: 300 points (+120)
o Win Grand Slam: 500 points (+200)
· Fighters in 8-man Slams receive the following total points:
o Lose in first round: 50 points
o Lose in semi-final: 110 points (+60)
o Lose in final: 200 points (+90)
o Win Slam: 360 points (+160)
· Fighters in 4-man World Championship Tournaments receive the following total points:
o Lose in first round: 50 points
o Lose in final: 150 points (+100)
o Win Slam: 350 points (+200)
· Fighters in 4-man Contender Tournaments (usually held between the fighters ranked 4th to 7th with the winner qualifying for a 4-man World Championship) receive the following total points:
o Lose in first round: 10 points
o Lose in final: 90 points (+80)
o Win Contender: 160 points (+70)
o The fighter who qualifies for the 4-man Championship then receives at least 50 points extra as part of the final tournament
· In the event of the fighter receiving a second chance after losing, due to the injury of another fighter, he only receives the points that would be gained for progressing in that round. For instance, a fighter who loses in the first round of a Grand Slam then loses the final receives 50 points. If he wins the final, he receives 50+200 = 250 points
· If a fighter cannot participate in the next stage due to injury, he is deducted half the points he was entitled to from winning his previous fight. For instance, in a Contender Tournament someone who won his first fight but could not contest the final would receive 30 + ½ × 50 = 55 points
· A fighter who drops down one weight division to fight as a Wild Card receives two-thirds of the points listed above (rounded up as usual). A Slam fighter who has moved up to a higher weight gets the full number of points.
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Post by K1power on Apr 23, 2014 9:09:24 GMT 1
I could care less about their criteria if they can't even get the most common rule of 'winner takes the rank' right. These rankings and criteria have nothing to do with thinking of everything and being professional. They're a smokescreen to hide that Glory is manipulating the ranks to justify certain matchups. They weren't even abiding to their own criteria by making Saki #2 at LHW.
Regardless of Saki winning it, him having a good showing there and what not let's not forget he shouldn't have been in that tournament to begin with. What got him there was a dirty power play tactic on his behalf.
I completely agree with each ranking system having its own criteria, but there are a few ground rules that should apply to each one and Glory is losing credibility with theirs.
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Post by K1power on Apr 23, 2014 9:12:42 GMT 1
Full Middleweight Tournament Lineup Confirmed on Facebook: Artem "The Lion" Levin (RUS) Joe schilling (USA) Wayne Barrett (USA) Melvin Manhoef (NL) Filip Verlinden official Fanpage (BEL) Simon ''Bad Bwoy'' Marcus (CAN) Alex "Po Atan" Pereira (BRA) Bogdan Stoica (ROM) Also:  Looks like Hollenbeck's 'dream of being a fireman' was short-lived  I'm expecting this to be a title eliminator. |
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Post by themagi on Apr 23, 2014 20:37:00 GMT 1
Artem, you swine, making us sweat like that.
Fascinating tournament on paper with loads of interesting permutations.
Will they do a live draw on their website for the quarter finals or are they looking to 'in-house' it?
I know it's purely BS, but just imagine if the 4th guy in the HW tournament, after Rico, Ghita and the GLORY.16 tournament winner, was the big SS. Certainly livens up the bracket.
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Post by K1power on May 5, 2014 11:09:56 GMT 1
So now we have Daniel Ghita VS Rico Verhoeven II confirmed for this.
Aditionally, Pat Barry VS Mirko CroCop II was intended to be a main event for this, but the athletic commission doesn't allow Barry to fight so soon after being KO'd so Glory is looking for a new opponent for Mirko.
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Post by kickboxing on May 5, 2014 12:27:02 GMT 1
ristie and cro cop are on spike card
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Post by kickboxing on May 7, 2014 13:43:13 GMT 1
de bonte v valtellini on ppv, for the title of de bonte. are you buying it guys?
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Post by bero on May 8, 2014 12:44:07 GMT 1
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Post by themagi on May 8, 2014 20:03:15 GMT 1
If CroCop-Sergei gets rubber stamped then this fight finally gets made at (at least) the third attempt and more than a decade after it was originally pursued.
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Post by ecky on May 9, 2014 4:27:45 GMT 1
Apprently Miguel Torres has been given a spot in the FW tourney for some insane reason and it seems that Glory has actually cut Noiri, as much as i love what glory has done they make some seriously head scratching decisions from time to time.
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Post by bero on May 20, 2014 10:00:54 GMT 1
Kharitonov is injured, they're looking for new opponent for Mirko.
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