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Post by h on Sept 5, 2016 21:06:43 GMT 1
any shoot em up fans? Raiden V looks fucking awesome. im gonna get an xbone just to buy that damn game. have to buy it from japan but at least its Region free.
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Post by K1power on Sept 6, 2016 18:24:41 GMT 1
I like a lot of classic shooters from the 90s and early 2000 era like Doom, Quake, Duke Nukem etc.
Not a big fan of contemporary shooters like the Call of Duty series. I got the first CoD: Black Ops on PS3 and enjoyed it, but it got repetitive rather quick for me. I guess a lot of it has to do with its reliance on the Online aspect while I'm not a big fan of Online gaming. Don't get me wrong it's something that has to be in there nowadays, but I much more prefer an immersive single player experience, with any type of game. Contemporary shooters don't really offer that.
I do really enjoy games with shooter elements though, like Fallout.
I'm not sure I've ever played any of the Raiden games..
**Looks up Raiden V**
Ah of course, it's a Scroll Shooter, which turns it into a different conversation than the one about First Person Shooters. I like Scroll Shooters, but due to their trippy and high-scorey nature they're never games I can play for extended periods of time.
A really cool use of them is in the mid 90s Namco games on the PSX when you'd get a few Scroll Shooter levels before the titlescreens of games like Ridge Racer and Tekken and could actually unlock various stuff for the game by succesfully completing the mini-games.
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Post by h on Sept 6, 2016 19:57:37 GMT 1
lol yeah shoot em ups are your scroll shooters, or top overhead shooters. raiden series is one of the best. rtype is great. gekioh shooting king on ps1. theres tons of them. that's pretty much where my collection has been going. that and arcade fighters of course. I suck at FPS. TURRIBLE.
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Post by h on Sept 6, 2016 20:38:05 GMT 1
two of those games I got this weekend Chaos Field and Gradius V are vertical and horizontal shoot em ups. still need to complete the gradius series. I still need part 1 which started on NES. and then 3 on SNES. and then the 3+4 combo disc on ps2. not sure where gradius 2 exists.... might be J release only :/
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Post by themagi on Sept 6, 2016 20:44:25 GMT 1
About fifteen years ago a friend of mine gave me a bootleg copy of a Japanese scrolling shooter for the Dreamcast. I'd never heard of it and he thought the game was, in his words, "a pile of fox shit". I was in no hurry to play it and finally got round to doing so a few days later. I played it, thought it was near impossible and just filed it as part of my collection, probably to be never placed in the console ever again.
Months later another friend, a hardcore gamer type, mentioned that he had heard about a Japanese shooter that was said to be extremely difficult to complete but near impossible to find in Europe. His feet almost came off the ground in the vain of St.Francis of Assisi when I told him that a copy of Ikaruga was sitting on a shelf at my place, gathering dust and merely taking up space. I think I could have got away with charging him an hourly rate, if I had the heart to do so, so he could find out for himself how difficult to play, he was so keen.
On the subject of the DC, it's amazing how that when it and it's games where available to buy in stores it was considered something of a joke and pretty much flopped but now it's seen as an exceptional console with a whole host of excellent and underrated games. The PS2 blew it out of the water, but I still have mine and all my games. Shenmue stands out as a really incredible game along with AJPW Giant Gram 3 which probably still stands today as the finest pro-wrestling game ever made. Bloody shame that K-1 Dream, that was going to be a DC exclusive title with a whole new look from the K-1 games available on the PSX, PS2 and Saturn at the time and was said to have looked awesome, was one of the first games to be killed off (along with UFC 2) when it was announced that production of the DC console was to stop.
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Post by h on Sept 6, 2016 20:47:11 GMT 1
Ikaruga is awesome. it got a US release on the game cube and I cannot find it for the life of me. I do have the dreamcast version, but its a burned copy. the dreamcast was a very sad story. it was ahead of its time. Capcom released SO. FUCKING. MANY. awesome exclusives for it. I loved the system when it came out and was sad to see it go. depressing almost. fucking sega.
btw, private companies STILL make new games for the dreamcast. 14 games came out last year by independent programing companies. amazing stuff. the console wont die even though it technically died...
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Post by h on Sept 6, 2016 20:56:19 GMT 1
do you have a big DC collection? as K1 knows im a big retro game hunter. my collection still grows to this very day. i collect for 15 different game consoles.
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Post by themagi on Sept 6, 2016 21:08:07 GMT 1
About 50-ish games, maybe more. I've got a burned copy of Half-Life, which I don't think was ever released. 4 wheel Thunder is a fave of mine and I hate driving games. Fire Pro Wrestling D. That shooter which is a spoof of James Bond. UFC. A lot of sports games. House Of The Dead. 18 Wheeler. Carrier. Bootleg of Unreal Tournament. Both Crazy Taxis. Headhunter. Soldier Of Fortune and a few more.
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Post by K1power on Sept 6, 2016 21:23:21 GMT 1
The Dreamcast is an awesome machine, but unfortunately a combination of bad timing, lack of marketing and a bit of bad luck resulted in the machine flopping. In turn it put the final nail in the coffin for Sega as a player on the console market. A very sad story indeed.
There is something positive to Sega's depressing story though. Although Sega has changed owners (I believe multiple times over the past decade) and is a mere shell of its former self, Sega is still alive and kicking. They still bring out some awesome games. Personally, I love the Ryo Ga Gotoku/Yakuza series, which is an exclusive series for the PlayStation and has a lot of elements from ShenMue in it. Also, Sega has a huge and awesome fan community.
Also, how awesome is it that we're finally getting ShenMue III? To this day I haven't played ShenMue II as I wanted something I hadn't touched yet in the world of ShenMue that I could play one day.
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Post by h on Sept 6, 2016 21:38:51 GMT 1
then you have people that were teasing a Dreamcast 2 console lol. there was even talk of a kickstarter being put together but it turned out to be fake. like the colecovision chameleon that DID get a kickstarter but ended up being an snes mini inside a shell when we finally got a prototype reveal.... that whole entire thing was a fucking mess lol.
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Post by K1power on Sept 6, 2016 21:51:32 GMT 1
Oh yeah I remember rumors of Sega returning to the console market and they tend to pop up every now and then. Usually these rumors result in something like this:
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Post by h on Sept 6, 2016 21:58:14 GMT 1
this though.... I wanted THIS... lol.
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Post by K1power on Sept 6, 2016 22:01:41 GMT 1
You know it may sound weird, but I think of the XBOX as kind of a spiritual successor to the Sega consoles. Mainly because early on they had some sega exclusives like ShenMue 2 and the consoles and gamepads have similar designs to the DC one in particular.
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Post by h on Sept 6, 2016 22:28:32 GMT 1
yeah panzer dragoon continued on the xbox when Orta was released. one of my favorite shooter series.
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Post by h on Sept 18, 2016 4:35:11 GMT 1
well well well look what H found today.... fucking Ikaruga port for game cube...
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