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Post by miscmisc on Jan 11, 2021 17:42:39 GMT 1
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mzn
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Post by mzn on Jan 11, 2021 18:51:39 GMT 1
The first Douanier has the first name as I do. And he seems just a bit too amused by taking peoples sandwiches. :-)
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 11, 2021 19:56:20 GMT 1
Merkel is wrong on this, period. Her argument is stupid. Makes no sense to me.
European leaders tend to have a strange (to me, at least) idea about these issues.
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Post by K1power on Jan 11, 2021 20:42:15 GMT 1
This morning on Dutch TV a popular argument was something along the lines of 'If they ban Trump, why not some of the Chinese govt. officials that tweeted far nastier stuff?' They referred to some recent comments made against Uyghur women, something like that.
Basically they accused Twitter of having double standards.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 11, 2021 21:36:36 GMT 1
I see. But the "double standard" opposition is always just weak sauce. That tends to rather highlight the lack of real arguments on their side.
You know, basically the EU doesn't like it that private companies, American ones no less, provide communication infrastructure for Europeans like this. So their stance is that if you act like the basic infrastructure provider in our yard, we will treat you as if you were a public utility. And if it were a public utility, of course you wouldn't want it to ban accounts/people purely at its own discretion.
Now, I'm on the left. I think It's grotesque that private companies with little accountability control so much of our lives. I often rant about that here, you know. So I agree with Europeans on that principle.
But that's that, and this is this. No matter what they say and do, Google, Apple and Twitter are private companies. They are NOT public utilities. Twitter has its own free speech right to ban accounts according to its own criteria. I said I didn't like its mass banning, but didn't say that the company was violating any principle. Because it didn't. It's perfectly common sensical for a private company to ban a public figure who incites violence.
What is truly "problematic" isn't the fact that Twitter banned Trump, but the regrettable fact that Twitter is powerful enough to affect the society and even politics in Merkel's (or Rutte's or whoever else's) own country while being a mere American private company.
I would cheer for Merkel and Co. if they want to decrease the power of such American private companies as Google, Facebook and Twitter. It would be wonderful if the EU had its own public platform/infrastructure for example.
But Twitter banning Trump is not "problematic." It's perfectly fine. Calling the act "problematic" is just taking the discourse to a wrong place where Merkel's argument would simply fall apart under its own weight. Twitter bans all Nazi-related things in Germany after all.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 11, 2021 21:56:00 GMT 1
LOL @ Glenn Greenwald. He's a mess now.
Proved once again lawyers aren't very bright.
You know, sometimes, you get marginalized not because the status quo/thought police is powerful, but because you're an idiot.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 11, 2021 22:01:05 GMT 1
These Republicans are just sociopaths.
Many Congresspeople, particularly Democratic ones, have pre-existing conditions.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 11, 2021 22:04:54 GMT 1
You know, even if you don't believe in the efficacy of masks, you'd wear one in such an emergency situation out of respect and empathy.
But even such a minimum gesture of humanity is a bridge too far for these representatives, even after one of their colleagues died of Covid-19 a few weeks ago.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 12, 2021 13:45:19 GMT 1
I don't know why people are in any way surprised by this. Many swingers are New Agers, who have been the driving force of QAnon on Facebook since the late spring.
QAnon recruited a huge number of non-conservatives into MAGA. Most of them wouldn't have gotten anywhere near a conservative movement without that gateway.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 12, 2021 14:14:54 GMT 1
Damn, Deutsche Bank dropped Trump and his companies. Without Deutsche money Donald would've been literally dead.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 12, 2021 14:18:50 GMT 1
As I'm sure you know, Deutsche is one of the go-to banks for all the Bond villains in the world living in dungeons. The bank would lend you no matter what if you were deemed worth $$$$$, unless you raped your daughter in public at Union Square or something.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 12, 2021 16:53:48 GMT 1
Taking advantage of all the benefit of Harvard education and credentials to make a successful career in the conservative grift world and then railing against "liberal/leftist dominance in elite universities" later is one of the worst Harvard-graduate traditions.
So, it's par for the course that Stefanik doesn't mention the fact that she is a Harvard graduate herself in this long statement.
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 12, 2021 22:50:28 GMT 1
The fact of the matter is that every single demagogic Republican Congressmen and woman supposedly fighting "globalist domination" and "anti-freedom elitist Left universities that control our society" would do absolutely anything to get their dumb kids admitted in Harvard.
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Post by lero on Jan 12, 2021 22:59:16 GMT 1
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Post by miscmisc on Jan 12, 2021 23:12:37 GMT 1
If the US was ruled for eight years by a Kenyan conman who serves the Globalist Left to take away liberty from you, and if a global pedophilia circle tried to steal the election from Donald Trump, unsuccessfully the first time and successfully the second time, with the media and most of the Congress being complicit, storming the Capitol was an ethically sound action.
America has really collectively crossed the Rubicon, I'm afraid. 30% or so of people believe the above.
This is what Mao would call an "excellent situation." I don't think I need to tell you what that means.
McConnell might throw Trump under the bus and pretend to be the Steward to Bring America Back to Normalcy, but that will only create an illusion of "normalcy" while the foundation keeps corroding.
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