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Post by Kenshin (Banned) on Oct 11, 2014 21:49:33 GMT 1
Even though it was not seen on the stream, I already kinda considered that he might have walked out before the decision. Or wait.... didn't he actually was in the ring for quit some time after? Couldn't it be that someone told them that it was a draw before the official announcement, and that he left then? Damn, I would like to see the footage again now. Walking out RIGHT after the round ended would make even less sense. Not that I understand Buakaws and his teams actions at all.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 11, 2014 21:59:33 GMT 1
Even though it was not seen on the stream, I already kinda considered that he might have walked out before the decision. Or wait.... didn't he actually was in the ring for quit some time after? Couldn't it be that someone told them that it was a draw before the official announcement, and that he left then? Damn, I would like to see the footage again now. Walking out RIGHT after the round ended would make even less sense. Not that I understand Buakaws and his teams actions at all. Well, if you have your Top King rep waiting in the back with the engine running on his car to whisk you away there is no reason to keep him waiting, right? |
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Post by Kenshin (Banned) on Oct 11, 2014 22:01:03 GMT 1
Ok, after watching it again: Bell sounds, he seems pretty happy right after the round, hugging Kehl and throwing up his arms. Then they show replays for a little bit over a minute, after that Buakaw and his team had already left the ring. So he did left the ring pretty soon, but it still makes no sense to think that he didn't knew about the draw at this point. I mean, he really seemed happy right after the fight, not like someone who was planning to leave the ring, screwing over the promotion.
I know, I know, YouTube.. but the first comment on the video I've seen could be interesting though:
"Hey, I got info for Thai News. It said that there was a gamble website going on here and K-1 was the one organizing that gambling website. Buakaw already gave info to the police in Thailand before the fight began and he mentioned that if it was a draw, he would not fight the extended round because that means the results was locked; If it is a draw, K-1 will get most profit from the gambling becuz most of people already bet that Buakaw would win in 3 rounds. "
Because I didn't heard that he was even announcing beforehand that he would leave if it's scored a draw.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 11, 2014 22:10:16 GMT 1
K-1 has a sponsor, TopBetta (the people who hosted the stream), who were taking bets for the fight. When Buakaw got upset over it, they no longer accepted bets on the fight and refunded any bets placed.
TopBetta is a relatively small operation and definitely not enough to warrant a global betting fraud conspiracy ring to make K-1 rich at poor Buakaw's expense. Plus the last few events there were bets on his fights and barely anyone bet via that site because they didn't know that they could.
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Post by K1power on Oct 11, 2014 22:11:02 GMT 1
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Post by Kenshin (Banned) on Oct 11, 2014 22:16:23 GMT 1
K-1 has a sponsor, TopBetta (the people who hosted the stream), who were taking bets for the fight. When Buakaw got upset over it, they no longer accepted bets on the fight and refunded any bets placed. TopBetta is a relatively small operation and definitely not enough to warrant a global betting fraud conspiracy ring to make K-1 rich at poor Buakaw's expense. Plus the last few events there were bets on his fights and barely anyone bet via that site because they didn't know that they could. Well, that would actually eliminate it as a potential reason for his actions. But I guess that's the big question right now: What was the motivation for Buakaw and his team to leave the ring... so strange. With LeBanner is was pretty easy. A ego thing (plus he was gassed). |
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 11, 2014 22:19:26 GMT 1
A rival promoter being upset with K-1 being in Thailand and paying Buakaw to sabotage the show?
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Post by Kenshin (Banned) on Oct 11, 2014 22:31:00 GMT 1
Ow, that's heavy. But Buakaw pretty clearly wanted to win the fight though. I also think that there would be more suited ways to sabatage a show like that. Like faking an injury right before the fight. Now that would have been messed up.
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Post by K1power on Oct 11, 2014 22:33:17 GMT 1
That UK 'reporter' who is paid by Glory doing his job by starting a thread on sherdog to downtalk K-1's image as if they are somehow to blame for this..
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Post by rictor on Oct 11, 2014 22:48:35 GMT 1
Not only him but also the self-appointed Glory online marketing manager Matazurka or Rollermanskunk or whatever that had the nerve to call everyone to support Glory Oklahoma event as a response to the outburst at Apollo Cook after the latter went full-retard and started insulting people for having legitimate concerns about Glory's business decisions writing Buakaw having doubts if he will be paid, probably wasn't even paid for previous fights, K-1 is finished etc. It's not really surprising.
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Post by themagi on Oct 12, 2014 0:03:38 GMT 1
Buakaw, I'm guessing, tried everything under his power to get out of that fight but was locked up airtight under the terms of his contract with K-1 so, under the advisement of Top King, he did the absolute bare minimum of 3 rounds and not a millisecond more.
Their was a bit of a wait before the decision was announced so I wonder if K-1 had the cunning of a burglar to change the decision to a draw as to make BB look as if he'd turned his back on his own country's fans by not contesting the extra round rather than:
A) Announcing him the winner only for him to not actually be in attendance to receive the trophy thus thumbing his nose at K-1 and the tournament
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B ) Was announced as the loser by decision allowing Buakaw to whine (and lie) that it he was only adjudged to have done so because he had bolted, forcing K-1 to save face.
Did Ned and co double cross the double crosser?
No doubt in my mind that this was all premeditated by Buakaw and Top King from before the opening bell.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 12, 2014 0:49:51 GMT 1
Buakaw, I'm guessing, tried everything under his power to get out of that fight but was locked up airtight under the terms of his contract with K-1 so, under the advisement of Top King, he did the absolute bare minimum of 3 rounds and not a millisecond more. Their was a bit of a wait before the decision was announced so I wonder if K-1 had the cunning of a burglar to change the decision to a draw as to make BB look as if he'd turned his back on his own country's fans by not contesting the extra round rather than: A) Announcing him the winner only for him to not actually be in attendance to receive the trophy thus thumbing his nose at K-1 and the tournament OR B ) Was announced as the loser by decision allowing Buakaw to whine (and lie) that it he was only adjudged to have done so because he had bolted, forcing K-1 to save face. Did Ned and co double cross the double crosser? No doubt in my mind that this was all premeditated by Buakaw and Top King from before the opening bell. I mean, it's still kind of unclear exactly what happened. I heard reports from the arena that there was tinkering from Top King to explain Buakaw's behavior, but there could always be another side of the story. Then there are people talking about this "illegal gambling ring," which I'm not sure that I buy at all. I spoke with a few higher-ups at Glory and apparently you have confusion as to why Bas Boon, Robbie Timmers and Cor Hemmers were there ("Cor is on vacation."), but they are telling guys in Glory that Buakaw was "screwed" and that there was illegal gambling going on, which is why he left. Honestly, fuck this sport. Seriously. |
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Post by rictor on Oct 12, 2014 0:59:00 GMT 1
It's way easier to look at this stuff when you take some steps back distancing yourself from it  Btw, it's actually quite smart, saying that they will explain the situation soon (Buakaw's team). They are now getting flooded with supporters thinking up every single conspiracy theory possible trying explain to themselves why Buakaw left the arena so they can later just cherry pick the best one and feed it to them. |
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 12, 2014 1:32:28 GMT 1
It's way easier to look at this stuff when you take some steps back distancing yourself from it Btw, it's actually quite smart, saying that they will explain the situation soon (Buakaw's team). They are now getting flooded with supporters thinking up every single conspiracy theory possible trying explain to themselves why Buakaw left the arena so they can later just cherry pick the best one and feed it to them. That's very true. I'm genuinely curious as to what they come up with. People will always find a way to support their heroes, no matter what, even if the explanation is butt. |
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Post by rictor on Oct 12, 2014 1:47:45 GMT 1
You think Solana Marketing or any other company involved here as sponsors will take an official stance? Cause that would be pretty telling.
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