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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 12, 2014 18:55:08 GMT 1
Pat, the owner of Solana has pretty much said that she refuses to speak out against Buakaw, no matter what he does because they made him into a national hero and she doesn't want to destroy that. Wait, am I getting this right? Buakaw goes to the police to try and get the organisers of this event arrested. The event is organised by K-1 Thailand which essentially is Pat and her company. In other words Buakaw tries to get her arrested. And yet she refuses to speak anything against him and his team because he is a marketing success of hers? So hypothetically, if jailtime was a real possibility here she would still rather just go to jail than say anything? Is that a culture thing cause I seriously don't get it? Or am I wrong on this? Well, if we are really honest here with ourselves there is no way in hell that anyone would go to prison over any of this. After he lodged his complaint to the police they investigated it and found the claims to be ridiculous and dismissed them. I think that there is some seedy shit going on here and that what this comes down to is that there are people with money and power in Thailand who don't want an outsider promoting events like this on their soil and that they did everything in their power to try to discredit them. I think there is a fear from people in Thailand of speaking out against this. In fact, I've spoken with a few people who have said as much; that they know what happened but wouldn't dare speak out about it and potentially ruin their own careers because it doesn't involve them. I kind of can't wait for a tear-filled Buakaw statement to the press in front of a Top King banner that is coming up with GLORY kind-of-employee Robbie Timmers there as a character witness to how crappy K-1 is. Because he's Buakaw's bud now, although he wasn't when he was trying to sign Buakaw to GLORY and Buakaw and Yim called him a dickhead and that they would never do business with him. |
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Post by rictor on Oct 12, 2014 19:48:35 GMT 1
The only thing lacking here is a claim that they had to hastily flee from the arena because they were afraid their lives would be seriously threatened and we would have a kickboxing full course then.
There's one thing I don't really get. I don't remember anyone from this K-1 taking online digs at Glory at every opportunity there is. Now, I'm not exactly saying everything they do is right and they damn well deserve criticism for some of their fuck ups. But the hell, you have Boon anonymously going online and throwing shit, Glory board members almost celebrating every problem K-1 stumbles into, people clearly involved in some way with them discrediting K-1 and even fighters throwing their 5 cents and yet Glory is the good dude, the messiah of kickboxing that deserves all the support and K-1 is all the evil plaguing the sport that deserves to die.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 12, 2014 21:23:18 GMT 1
The only thing lacking here is a claim that they had to hastily flee from the arena because they were afraid their lives would be seriously threatened and we would have a kickboxing full course then. There's one thing I don't really get. I don't remember anyone from this K-1 taking online digs at Glory at every opportunity there is. Now, I'm not exactly saying everything they do is right and they damn well deserve criticism for some of their fuck ups. But the hell, you have Boon anonymously going online and throwing shit, Glory board members almost celebrating every problem K-1 stumbles into, people clearly involved in some way with them discrediting K-1 and even fighters throwing their 5 cents and yet Glory is the good dude, the messiah of kickboxing that deserves all the support and K-1 is all the evil plaguing the sport that deserves to die. Yeah, it's really kind of frustrating that Glory people take digs at K-1. I've been [hilariously enough] labeled a Glory nut-hugger and whatever else (even a K-1 hater?!) by people, but seriously, if you genuinely love the sport and care about it you don't give a shit what the brand is, you just care about the general health of the sport, the athletes ability to make a living and being entertained. It's difficult not to see that K-1 has struggled and stumbled since K-1 Global took the reigns from FEG, but FEG was doing stuff that was downright dirty and criminal while still giving shows that were the status quo. K-1G is simply trying to put on shows without losing money right now, while GLORY's approach was the literal opposite of presenting their brand like it was already this huge, crazy success while bleeding money out of every pore. Now GLORY is having financial problems and K-1, who were putting on shitty shows with sub-par talent, all of a sudden have a possible future. Right now GLORY comes across as the privileged child who blew their trust fund at age 18 and at 19 is still trying to party with their bros but don't have the money to make those parties happen anymore and wondering why everyone is turning on them. K-1 is trying to carry on a disgraced family business but has done things in a way to try to repair that damage and might actually be onto something now. Honestly what is best for the sport is that they combine their assets and work together, but that's not going to happen. Instead we'll get more bullshit, more fanboyism and outlandish claims like this. |
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Post by rictor on Oct 12, 2014 21:38:25 GMT 1
Honestly what is best for the sport is that they combine their assets and work together, but that's not going to happen. Instead we'll get more bullshit, more fanboyism and outlandish claims like this. This nails it. It's like, even with completely new people entering this business kickboxing still remains the same as it always was with the same old problems. For something to change you probably would have to purge every single person that was involved with the old system including promoters, managers, agents and fighters. Meanwhile, at the current rate, they will just happily run the sport to the ground in the name of their pride and after the fact blame everything and everyone else but not themselves. |
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Post by K1power on Oct 13, 2014 8:59:55 GMT 1
I wonder when the press release is coming out, should be anytime soon.
Funny thing; despite the Buakaw police doing what they're best at on Facebook, K-1's Facebook page grew with 3.000 likes over the past 36 hours.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 13, 2014 9:27:10 GMT 1
Because people who comment on things on the internet are generally speaking filled with rage and hatred over their own putrid lives and want to make people feel bad.
There are a lot of people who are positive about things and like them but they just don't feel the need to make grand public statements and embarrass themselves. This is what I've learned in writing online for almost ten years now.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 13, 2014 9:37:15 GMT 1
Oh god, now the story is that K-1 changed the rules last minute?! That didn't happen, but you know, gotta keep the narrative fresh.
What's thoroughly embarrassing is apparently there was an issue earlier on in the night where the judges marked the wrong guy the winner and they had to reverse the decision. I understand people thinking that shit was fixed after that kind of mistake.
Oh K-1.
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Post by rictor on Oct 13, 2014 13:10:28 GMT 1
LoL K-1 changing rules last minute banning techniques that were banned from K-1 rules a couple years ago already. Seems legit as fuck.
And the notion from hardcore Thai Buakaw supporters that K-1 should change their rules to accommodate their national sport for being allowed to held an event in Thailand is pure gold.
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Post by Kenshin (Banned) on Oct 13, 2014 13:49:59 GMT 1
I honestly don't even see how this is all too bad for K-1.
They obviously made the mistake to invest a lot into Buakaw, probably trying to make buisness with him for a long time. Which is, of course, out of question now. Theyr reputation in Thailand, wheter deserved or not, is most likely fucked, too.
But at least they finally got an fight event that truly sparked some interest, even if only after the actual event. Good? Bad? Hey, it's PR. And so far there have been absolutely no evidence or anything like that to even think that K-1 is the one to blame and did the shady stuff. I doubt that Thailand would have been such an important market for the organisaton anyway, especially without Buakaw.
Also, the actual event, the production of it, looked very good and professionel (even though I'm not sure who's actually behind that and if this can/will continue for further shows). Plus you have fighters like Suarez, Daley and Kehl making a good showing and gaining some notion in the Kickboxing scene.
I just hope that the financials aren't screwed up for the "new K-1" and that they will continue to strengthen theyr brand, which will hopefully happen due to signing more talent.
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Post by ecky on Oct 13, 2014 18:29:06 GMT 1
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Post by Kenshin (Banned) on Oct 13, 2014 18:39:15 GMT 1
Now that is some shit.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 13, 2014 19:04:24 GMT 1
That was Javier Rolo, who was his manager. Javier was Calvo's manager and the money went to Javier first due to him both organizing the event and being Calvo's manager. Rolo was going through a divorce at the time and pretty much paid nobody, soooo |
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Post by h on Oct 13, 2014 19:13:09 GMT 1
paying nobody is a sound business move imo.
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Post by dvewlsh on Oct 13, 2014 19:14:33 GMT 1
Oh my god. I think between all of these people combined there is a third grade education in here: LOOK AT THOSE COMMENTS. Oh my god. |
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Post by Kenshin (Banned) on Oct 13, 2014 19:51:14 GMT 1
This statement isn't very revealing either though.
Seems like a lot of commenting people already made theyr mind up, blaming K-1. That's the typical bullshit: Having such strong opinions without really knowing the facts or details, seemingly not with a single doubt in theyr mind that they could be wrong after all. At least I try to be open minded about it.
This said, I can partly understand these people, considering that they might have been Buakaw hardcore fans for many years and admired him so much etc.
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