The Big Kickboxing News & Rumors Thread [2020]

[K1power]

Glory turns 8 today. Damn, years are going by fast.

[Shadess]

Good stuff from Belarus starting tomorrow:



mixfight.by/novosti/2020-may/kickboxing-grand-prix-super-8-uzhe-v-minske.html

Google translate introductions to the fighters:

Vadim Vaskov - Multiple champion of the Republic of Belarus in Thai boxing, World Champion in Thai boxing, medalist of the World Championship in Thai boxing.



Dmitry Filippov - Champion of the Republic of Belarus in kickboxing and Thai boxing, World and European Champion in Thai boxing.



Maxim Spodarenko - 7-time Belarus kickboxing champion (WAKO), winner of the kickboxing world cup (WAKO), Silver medalist of the kickboxing world cup (WAKO), 2018 European K-1 boxing champion (WAKO), European kickboxing champion (WAKO) 2018, Winner of the “Best K-1 Fighter” Award of the European Championship 2018, Winner of the World Cup K1 WAKO GOLD 2019.



Artur Isayants - Master of Sports of international class in Thai boxing, K-1 master class, 6-time champion of the Republic of Belarus, IFMA World Champion, European Champion (WAKO), Professional Tournament Winner: KOK, W-5, WLF, KLF 2018- 2019, Glory of Heroes.



Dzianis Zuev - World Champion according to Kunlun Fight, Prizewinner of the championships of the Republic of Belarus.



Dmitry Filonchik - Master of Sports in Kickboxing, Champion of the World Kickboxing Cup (WAKO) 2013, Winner of the European Championship of Kickboxing (WAKO) 2013, Winner of the World Cup of Kickboxing (WAKO) 2014, European Champion of Kickboxing (WAKO) 2014, European Champion of Kickboxing (WAKO) 2013 2014, Prize-winner of the Belarus Kickboxing Championship (WAKO) 2015, 2017, Champion of Belarus Kickboxing (WAKO) 2018.



Zhora Akopyan - Winner of the Championships of the Republic of Belarus among juniors in Thai boxing 2013-2014, Winner of the World Championship 2014, Winner of the European Championship 2014, Winner of the professional tournament "League of Combat Vehicles", Winner of the Belt of the Champion of the Grand Prix FEA WORLD GP, World Champion among professionals according to the version “FIGHTING BY TNA RULES”.



Farhad Akhmedzhanov - Champion of the Republic of Belarus in Thai boxing IFMA 2013, Winner of the Cup of the Republic of Belarus in Kickboxing WAKO 2013, Champion of the Republic of Belarus in Thai boxing IFMA 2014, Champion of the border service of the Republic of Belarus in hand-to-hand fighting 2014 , Prizewinner of the Republic of Belarus Kickboxing and Thai Boxing Championships, Tongkat Cup Grand Prix Winner, WLF Grand Prix Winner, KONG FU King of Kings Grand Prix Winner, ACB KD Rating Tournament Winner, Tatneft and others.

[K1power]

New Warman Kickfighting Show is out:

kakutougi.proboards.com/thread/1222/2020-podcast-thread?page=2&scrollTo=28848

[Shadess]

Guess this wasn't posted here yet

[K1power]

Can't say I'm surprised, though I'd rather see Hesdy getting attention due to his accomplishments as a fighter.

I hope he stays out of trouble from now on, which may prove tough as he's approaching the winter of his career inside the ring.

[K1power]

So I've seen rumours of a big Glory event in October on a few websites and they appear to share below post as a source:



I don't know where this group got the information from, but if it's reliable this is a really solid card and something to look forward to, even if October is still a few months off.

[Shadess]

Glory: Morocco vs. Rest of the World

[K1power]

In that sense it does remind me of Enfusion and It's Showtime

[Shadess]

Quick math I'd ball park it at them having ~1.5 years left unless they get new investment or find a Manny Pacquiao of their own or in some other really clear way their revenue went up a lot, a big new paying tv deal etc. Also trying to be a little generous assuming corona didn't fuck them too badly and even leaving out costs for the apprentice, don't really know how much licensing something like that might be.

Maybe some "K-1 World Grand Prix 2011 in Nanjing Final 16" vibes towards the end of 2021 or early 2022.

[Shadess]

Hope them or Glory (or Kunlun, 4ever Kunlun) figures things out though. Otherwise might have to hope for some new rich guy or big entity to try and have a go at kickboxing, again.

[Shadess]

[lero]

I hope Jonathan doesn't live in Singapore. There are so many car accidents every year.

[K1power]

Comparing UFC & ONE: In 2017, Holm vs Correia in Singapore drew $839K. Arena was far from sold out.

For all 21 cards in 2018, ONE only drew $680K, in multiple “sold out” arenas.

Probably not really adding anything new here, but let's do a bit of quick math:

1 UFC event
$840.000 : 8400 attendees = $100 USD average ticket price

21 ONE events
$680K : 21 events = ~$32.000 USD in ticket sales per event

$32.000 : 5.000 attendees per event (lowballing) = $6.40 USD average ticket price

So there are a few possible scenario's here:
- Ticket prices for ONE events are REALLY low
- The majority of their venues are filled based on comped tickets
- They're lying about attendance numbers

Unfortunately, I think all three apply.

So, what possible other sources of income does ONE have?

- Merchandise; Maybe some. Probably nothing to write home about.
- TV deals; Do they have any? Perhaps Shadess can clarify.
- PPV; Aren't most, if not all their events available for free on YouTube?
- Social media views; As a single person, depending on your numbers you can make a good living as a YouTuber, Instagrammer etc. For a huge company with a ton of expensive fighters on semi-exclusive payrolls, any social media income can't be more than a drop in the bucket.
- Investors; Possibly.
- Advertisement; Possibly.

So yeah, unless I'm missing something and/or a miracle happens I don't see this going longer than one or two more years.

Like I said before, I just hope the fighters get paid and we don't end up with another K-1 Global / "Where is Mr.Kim?" situation.

[lero]

You gotta think about how really capable are most of the world investors.

You would think that they are ultra smart guys, experts in market analysis and monster spreadsheet.

[Shadess]

but the UFC sold for 4 BILLIONS tho! There's also more people in Asia and every single one of them just loves karate etc. so what do you need to look at any spreadsheets for just pour in some more money it's a sure thing.

Also Bruce Lee.